Adult CIVIII players wanted.

[Ananias]

Its silly to keep people out based solely on age. Beyond early teen years, maturity & decency have little to do with age and more to do with personal discipline. No matter how international you are, any restriction that excludes people based on unalterable differences (rather than choices and behavior) shows a fear of the unknown and an unwillingness to expand your comfort zone. what if you didn't let in homosexuals just because you personally believed they couldn't behave themselves? Or African Americans simply because you didn't think you had any shared interests? Age discrimination is no less predjudice even if it is more socially acceptable.

[Ananias]

p.s. I am over 25.

[MarkG]

Dan was 17(to take the youngest of the two) when we opened Apolyton and i hope you dont characterize our site as immature

[dexters]

Are you sure the CGA, aka, Certified General Accountants, won't sue your ass off?

Look what happened the WWF

[Jaybe]

The ages of 18 and 21 are just as arbitrary as 25, 35 or 55. They are just chronological ages, after all.

If I ever get into on-line gaming, I may look into the CGA.

[Yit]

Why do I feel like my bigger brother won't let me hang out with his bigger friends?

Seriously though, its tough for us younger, mature gamers. It seems as though, however, that those who put in the time and paitence to learn and play Civ III, well, already demonstrate their maturity Being 17 stinks

[Sleestax]

Guys, I'm not here to defend our age policy. It was put into place by a general vote by our membership. If you want to debate with our members about why they picked 25, I suggest you drop by the board and have that debate with them.

It seems as though the vast majority of players are in their teens and early twenties, tops.

Which is exactly why groups like the CGA exist. There are older adult gamers, but they are often hidden in the woodwork. I am just here to let people know that a place exists where older gamers gather to organize and play online games as well as socialize with their peers.

[trickey]

Mwahaha, unless you drop your age restriction to 14 ( which would allow me to play) i will boycott your club

[Solver]

Originally posted by MarkG
Dan was 17(to take the youngest of the two) when we opened Apolyton and i hope you dont characterize our site as immature

And Ming is still older than you and Dan combined .

[MarkG]

when one approaches to a group of people to inform about/advertise something, comments/criticism is to be expected

the fact that your group decided to put an extra age filter beyond the "dont be a jerk" one(which would cover pretty much everything imho) is certainly creating the wrong impression to many "adults" that would otherwise be interested in joining you

[Solver]

Very well said Markos .

[MarkG]

Originally posted by Solver
And Ming is still older than you and Dan combined .

if we put down the exact ages of the three at the time ming was "hired" by us, and started "taking orders" from us, i fear some... adults would be shocked!

sorry Sleestax, but basic ideas of your group are dead wrong
it's one thing to say "we are that kind of people, we like to do this stuff and we accept only other people like us in our group" and another to say "it's impossible that you are like us if you are under 25. grow up first"

[Solver]

Yes, judging people by age is wrong. Dan was only 15 when he took over one of the biggest Civ 2 sites on the Net, and did manage it nicely.

Markos, I think Dan was 18, you were 23 and Ming like 45 at the time, right?

[Zachriel]

Originally posted by Sleestax
Guys, I'm not here to defend our age policy. It was put into place by a general vote by our membership.

And of course you have to be 25 to vote. Kind of reminds me of the old American South. Time after time, they kept voting for white supremacy. Well, that settled the issue -- NOT!

[Sleestax]

when one approaches to a group of people to inform about/advertise something, comments/criticism is to be expected

Too right, that.

I have no problem with the criticism directed my way. I've heard it all before and much worse. Obviously the CGA isn't for everyone.

There are countless gaming groups that allow people of all ages. In the end, people will gravitate towards the ones with which they are most comfortable.