Culture Flipping:

[miccofl]

Not looking to start another discussion here, I just thought that with all the discussion on the subject it might be interesting to get a head count.

[zulu9812]

I'm taking "Duh-huh!" to mean "Of course I like culture flipping; what are you, stupid?"

[Dom Pedro II]

I think "Duh-huh" means "Duh, I'm braindead..."

It's probably the equivalent of "bananas".

Anyway, I voted for the option to turn it off. At the very least, I think the programmers should reevaluate it and make culture-flipping (due to invasions) harder to happen... i.e. it should require more civil disorder among the population, more on the culture of the civilization, and much much less on randomness.

[miccofl]

It’s amazing how different cultures can flip a nonsense word around – life imitates game.

[Coracle]

Yea, I like it.

I just love it when in the Ancient era I conquer a town of only '1', have NINE military units in it, and the next turn it "Flips" and my entire garrison vanishes without a trace.

What a load of crazy crap.

[miccofl]

Less than an hour, I’m impressed!

[Cyclotron]

Re: Culture Flipping:

Originally posted by miccofl
Not looking to start another discussion here

Thanks for reading the first post in the thread so thouroughly, Coracle.

Although, the above quote probably wasn't a reasonable expectation anyway.

[DeepO]

It might not be completely as intended, but as I did not found a unbiased positive poll, I'm taking the "We are the Borg, you will be assimilated" thing as "I like it a lot, and can use it to capture cities without a fight". Okay, the Borg aren't really peaceful, but at least you will be assimilated

DeepO

[ACooper]

It's like everything else - you just got to know how to use it.

[DeepO]

Oh, Coracle, post a save where that happened. In order to have a flip with 9 units as opposed to 1 citizen+foreign tile, you must have less then 1/4.5 times the culture of the other guy. Build some temples, for crying out loud. Or do try to manage your citizens out of civil disorder, I explained to you many times that that doubled the chances.

Sorry, this was not a discussion, just some help to my dear (friend)

DeepO

[The Pioneer]

Originally posted by Dom Pedro II
Anyway, I voted for the option to turn it off. At the very least, I think the programmers should reevaluate it and make culture-flipping (due to invasions) harder to happen... i.e. it should require more civil disorder among the population, more on the culture of the civilization, and much much less on randomness.

Last Friday on the live chat the Firaxians said that it's a game feature and nothing has/will be done about it. It has been a controversial feature from the beginning that's for sure, I am not to fond about it but I work around it.

To Coracle:

Don't you get tired of repeating yourself? What's the point?

So long...

[whosurdaddy]

Down with culture flipping. I don't get how it is not considered an act of war to annex large swaths of another nations territory using "cultural" means.

I consider culture flipping to be such a disgusting concept that even when AI cities flip to me, I TURN THEM DOWN.

Just cause the programmers (a very talented group) decided to put this feature in the game, does that automatically mean it is good, and that I should just play with this feature and love it no matter what?
As i've said several times, I could design the game to have pink elephants that randomly appear in the game that can destroy whole cities, and sure ... I could prolly learn how to play the game and deal with these pink elephants so that they dont destroy my civ, but that doesnt mean having pink elephants in the game is fun or that it even makes any sense.

If the problem is, that there needs to be more peaceful ways of attaining victory in the game, then that is fine, there are other ways to do it besides the silly idea of whole cities suddenly flipping sides.

For goodness sakes, would it kill you guys if it became a slider where we could control the rate of this occurence in our games. ISNT THIS WHY WE HAVE A RULES EDITOR, CAUSE SOME LIKE TO PLAY USING DIFFERENT RULES THAN OTHERS??? It doesnt mean we dont know how to play the game .....

[vondrack]

Originally posted by DeepO
It might not be completely as intended, but as I did not found a unbiased positive poll, I'm taking the "We are the Borg, you will be assimilated" thing as "I like it a lot, and can use it to capture cities without a fight". Okay, the Borg aren't really peaceful, but at least you will be assimilated

Same for me!

[zulu9812]

Originally posted by Dom Pedro II
I think "Duh-huh" means "Duh, I'm braindead..."

It's probably the equivalent of "bananas".

Damn, I should have picked "We Are The Borg". I just went for the opposite end of the scale from 'I hate it'. I don't suppose a mod could amend my vote? I wish ppl wouldn't put in vague options when you aren't sure what they mean.

[Jon Shafer]

I think it's a neat idea, but could be better implimented.
I think the 'randomness' is basically mommy shaking her finger at you saying "you'd better not invade your neighbors or else!"

I think that Firaxis caught a bit of the 'kill-the-conquest' fever after the blitzkriegs of Civ 2.