Check the reviews on amazon

[SultanofATL]

Originally posted by Barchan
And let us not forget that the general buying public is, well, let's just say "ill-equipped" to properly comprehend the concept of a strategy game. Let's look at the top five selections at Amazon, shall we?

1. WarCraft 3: Reign Of Chaos (click, click, click, click, click and etc.)

2. WarCraft 3: Reign of Chaos Collector's Edition (same amount of clicking for more money )

3. Neverwinter Nights (Ooh, I'm a mighty half-orc barbarian-sorceror! Pssht, 3rd edition rules. Please!)

4. Grand Theft Auto 3 (Vroom, screech, crash! Oh, if only *I* were old enough to drive....)

5. The Sims (Ah, now *here's* a real brain-crusher; I hear even Stephen Hawking can't solve this game).

Note: I'm sure these are fun games and all, but thinking man's games they ain't.

Lastly, do you have *any* idea how many copies of "deer hunter" and "deer's revenge" and "big game trophy" and other inane hunting sims have sold? The mind, I assure you, boggles at the number, given the drek being peddled. Thus, I'm not at all surprised to hear limping halfwits complain "me no win game, me no like!" I like the idea of the "Win" button, but only if it causes the computer to explode and take the credit-card toting waste of oxygen that pressed the button along with it!

Whoops. Overstayed my welcome on the soapbox! Best get down now. Sorry all....

wow! aren't we the condescending little *****! I love Civ 3 and think it has about a 2 game learning curve. But GTA3 is a classic! Have you played it? The game is also pretty challenging if you don't use the well publicized cheats. Diffrent genre's of game so don't even try to compare, but a good game is a good game no matter what and to me what makes a good a game includes some sort of challenge.

[Alex]

quote:

Here is what for me has become a typical scenario: After several hours of play, I've finally gotten my empire really expanding and taking shape. The other factions have made their entrances and negotiations are under way! And THEN...Persia rudely demands a map of my territory. I refuse, and Persia declares WAR! and steals a bunch of my land with only token resistance from my forces (what are these guys doing)!? My national treasury is suddenly empty and units are being disbanded. Half my cities are aflame because, dammit, the people need CLOWNS. Every wonder I was constructing gets built by somebody else and my production has been switched--at a significant loss--to something that I don't have the gold to support after it's completed. My advisors each have a separate agenda, but nobody's agenda appears to pertain whatsoever to the game I am currently playing. And, of course, the Babylonians, English, French and Egyptians have all signed a trade embargo against me because I so gravely wronged their dear friends, the Persians. About this time I decide the game's entertainment value has dropped to just below watching that woman on TV who pretends to read dogs' minds, or maybe searching the phone book for people with funny or unusual names.



This guy liked the game too, just some of his complaints about it. I think the part about the people needing clowns outta be added to the Apolyton quotes.

Hey, imagine what the guy would write if he had hated the game...

[cracker]

On almost all of the review sites that accept input from the general public, you have to just read the reviews and make your own interpretations.

The star ratings are frequently worthless and they get more worthless with an increasing number of comments and reviews from the novice type users. It seems that the same type of an idiot that can't figure out how to play the game on Warlord and Cheiftain levels is also the same type of an idiot that can't figure out how to select the one star or zero star ratings as being bad.

It is not uncommon to see someone just hammer the game or book in a review and then give the same game or book a 5 star rating.

The opposite case is rarely true however. When you see a game rated as 1 star out of 5 then you can be fairly certain that the product is worthless.

[dunk]

Reviewer: A 9-year old gamer
Civilivation 3 is fun game because you can fight in wars,trade and build citys.You can also build buildings and collect resources.Workers can build roads, clear forests or jungles and irrigate land.You can pick from tons of worlds or create your own on Civ 3 edit...

This is probably the best review out of the bunch. This is exactly how I felt when I was about 13 or so and first played Civ I.

I also liked the "The people need CLOWNS!!!"

[Inverse Icarus]

I, Have to Admit, Infogrames did a great job with civilization 3. But you should keep you money, there is no multiplayer feature in this game, save your money and buy the multiplayer addition when it comes out.

i see nothing wrong with this statement, and i have told several freinds this exact thing.

[Dinner]

I agree. The lack of MP in the shipped version is a legitimite complaint

[Boris Godunov]

I don't understand complaints about the difficulty and learning curve. Who on earth would want an epic strategy game wherein you didn't have to THINK and have strategy?

Isn't that the frickin' point? Sheesh...

[notyoueither]

Stop talking sense Boris. It might be contagious.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by UberKruX


i see nothing wrong with this statement, and i have told several freinds this exact thing.

Well at least for me personally, multiplayer (or lack thereof) is not enough of a reason NOT to buy a game, unless the game is obviously designed for multiplayer (which Civ III is not)

[Palleon]

I propose a new difficultly level for the next patch. Invalid, where the AI can't build settlers or military units until the year 1900, and the maximum research time for every tech is 4 years for the human player, and the minimum for the AI is 40. Even then, I bet you'll find someone who can't win.

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by Tassadar5000


Well at least for me personally, multiplayer (or lack thereof) is not enough of a reason NOT to buy a game, unless the game is obviously designed for multiplayer (which Civ III is not)

so you consider the artificial ingnorance a major challenge? you like playing a STRATEGY game with a mind that cannot comprehend STRATEGY?

come on, it can't even use artillery effectively. all strategy games are meant to be multiplayer in this day and age.

[dexters]

Barchan , WarCraft III is a twitch game?

News to me. The game is so intricate is feels like a martial arts match. Every move, and every unit has a counter, and the player who pulls off a strategy his or her oppenent fails to counter wins.

If its click click click click, then I suppose Civ III is the same.

[smellymummy]

too much to read, but this, grrr

Originally posted by Barchan
And let us not forget that the general buying public is, well, let's just say "ill-equipped" to properly comprehend the concept of a strategy game. Let's look at the top five selections at Amazon, shall we?

1. WarCraft 3: Reign Of Chaos (click, click, click, click, click and etc.)

2. WarCraft 3: Reign of Chaos Collector's Edition (same amount of clicking for more money )

3. Neverwinter Nights (Ooh, I'm a mighty half-orc barbarian-sorceror! Pssht, 3rd edition rules. Please!)

4. Grand Theft Auto 3 (Vroom, screech, crash! Oh, if only *I* were old enough to drive....)

5. The Sims (Ah, now *here's* a real brain-crusher; I hear even Stephen Hawking can't solve this game).

Note: I'm sure these are fun games and all, but thinking man's games they ain't.

bla bla bla

Sorry all....

warcraft was one of the PIONEERS in RTS. So what if it's click click click. In civ3, if I play on my laptop, guess what? I GOTA CLICK CLICK CLICK~!!!!!!

And what else, oh ya, warcraft is a thinking man's game@! You need to plan your stuff..sure if you played once in multiplayer and got your but kicked I can see why you have that point of view: boohoo hoo i got rushed and now I'm dead because I tried to build up alaciv, but these guys are cheaters how else could they have 20,000 soldiers and me only 1

Warcraft collectors edition - redundant argument even though you tried to be " "

Neverwinter nights .... okay 3rd edition rules might throw you off, and I havent played htis game... However this thing looks AMAZING. Imagine building your own RPG world??? Linking it up on your server and your friends?

I guess you need some EXP from the pen and paper world to enjoy such a thing, however Neverwinter nights is yet another thinking mans game.

GTA3 ??? YOU DARE TO DISS IT!!!! GTA3 is superb! You have access to a virtual city, and an avatar which you can use to do close to anything (within limits..). So what if its criminally orientated, are you one of those thats going to say everyones mind will be turned to violent mush after playing this? HAH! I had fun with the game, and damn did I ever have to think my way out of it at many points. Try to remember the map of a virtual city in your head. Remember all the nice places to visit, the gang spots, the parks, etc etc.

And the Sims?

im tired of making valid points for these games, but regardless they all require thinking, even stuff like deer hunter and quake.

Deer hunter - think were to find the deers (same can be applied to fishing games right?)

Quake - think quick or else your gona get FRAGGED.

I'm so sick of people making such broad statements just because its a game genre that you dont like. What are you soooo holier than thou because you can play civ and you have all this super strategy thing going on?

OKAY congrats you like CIV and ONLY CIV. Right? Your stuck in a TBS GENRE ONLY.

Its a shame then that you limit your mind to a secluded type of gaming.

Cant wait for multiplayer civ3 to come out. I'll be laughing all the way to the game store at all the people complaining "BUT I HAVE TO CLICK SO MUCH HUUUH IM LOOSING AND MULTIPLAYER IS SO QUAKE IM GOING TO PLAY CIV2 NOW BYE"

my rant, plz dont take offense cuz I LOVE YOU AND YOU AND YOU!!!

now excuse me everyone but i will be going back to reading this cool thread (about amazon.com reviews ??? omg what am i doing... i should go play civ or some quake hmm so many choices! ITS GREAT TO BE A WIDE LOVING GAMER HAHA! )

[notyoueither]

PBEM anyone?

[smellymummy]

PBEM: it is going to be included isnt it?