Largest troop movement? And a suggestion to SOREN...

[ColdFever]

I am playing a Level-4-Game (Monarch) and had a peaceful coexistence with the French for 5700 years, when they suddenly invaded my territory with a troop of 107 infantry units.

I guess, that's it... anybody else ever did see an attack with more than hundred units... and survived? What has been the largest number of AI units you ever noticed moving in a troop?

--- Suggestion to Soren ---
There is a nice event in case of barbarian uprisings:

#SUMMARY_BARBARIAN_EXPLOSION_CITY
#advisor Military Surprised
We have heard reports of a massive barbarian uprising near $CITY0!

My suggestion: if there exists an embassy in another nation, it should be possible to notice a mass movement of troops, something like that:

#SUMMARY_MILITARY_EXPLOSION_CIV
#advisor Military Surprised
We have heard reports of a massive troop movements in $CIVNAME!

[notyoueither]

Very good suggestion. However, I have never seen the massive stacks that some others are reporting. Of course, I've never experienced 5700 years of peace with AIs on my own continent. Or should I say they have never experienced it with me.

You might be able to salvage the situation if you have not completely neglected your own forces. You may need to use some of the cheesier exploits though. Prepare yourself for the loss of that first city and see where it goes from there.

[Skanky Burns]

Leaving the AI alone that long is never a good idea - as they will build up unitl they have overwhealming forces and then try to crush you.

I survived India doing this to me as the English due to 2 reasons.
First, I had a UU lying around that I got an easy kill with, giving me a golden age in the end-game
Second, I was very near to completing the spaceship. With a golden-age, this was achieved while most of my other cities were producing armour.

That scared me though, 'peaceful' India launching their massive invasion...

[alva]

i've seen it a couple of times, must say the ai was in a offensive-defensive position though, havn't seen the ai do it purely offensive.

[Theseus]

I'll describe the details in another thread, but in my current game, I have recently been subject to the following invasions, all at the Infantry / Rifleman and Cav / Knights / Longbowmen levels (non-upgrades due to to lack of cash, I guess):

Greece: Over 50 units in two stacks
Germany: Over 50 units in three stacks
France: Over 160 units in 4 stacks, but they haven;t actually attacked yet.

Each was followed, of course, by dribbles, ranging from 1 to 4 units.

I can;t believe what I've gotten myself into.

[Edit: BTW, I am still 6 turns from Replaceable Parts... life sucks]

[Jaybe]

For me, the largest AI stack I've seen is 60+. They were 'just passing through' to the poor Aztecs on the other side of me, without an RoP agreement with me.

It all started when I signed an MPP with them, and then the 'hot-headed' Aztecs made a pass through my borders in force. I was much bigger than they. I told them to scram, they declared war, The Chinese chimed in (their's is the huge stack), and over the years have gotten most everyone else against the Aztecs. I long since have taken all the good Aztec land and made peace with them. The Chinese stack of everything from Swordsmen to Infantry is still about 6 squares from what's left of the Aztecs.

I have now closed my border with the Chinese so they don't continue streaming across. Besides, they (and everyone else) finally got their act together and invaded by sea. Meanwhile, the Aztec communists have 8-12 1-and-2 size towns left, a couple dozen infantry and 1-4 tanks, all in hills and tundra (I have a spy in their war ministry), and basically no resources. I couldn't help them if I wanted to, trade-wise -- no harbors and no roads.

End of ramble...

JB

[Jaybe]

Request to Firaxis:
If a horde of barbarians beset a town, and are victorious, let there be at least a chance that they raze it (if there isn't already). Either that, or hold it for ransom (sizeable $$). The one time that a horde successfully hit a town of mine, they took little cash, and then they poofed into thin air.

BTW, I was quite thankful. It had the fledgling Iroquois nation's only horse resource!

Thank you

JB

[Zylka]

I think that's an idea

[Zylka]

actually I'd say more than 60

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Jaybe
Request to Firaxis:
If a horde of barbarians beset a town, and are victorious, let there be at least a chance that they raze it (if there isn't already). Either that, or hold it for ransom (sizeable $$). The one time that a horde successfully hit a town of mine, they took little cash, and then they poofed into thin air.

I agree. I've been hit by so many barbs that after a while, they weren't doing any damage, just sacking the same size one city over and over. What's the point. Either capture or raze the city or just move to another target.

[star mouse]

This happened to me yesterday.

I was minding my own business, playing a peaceful game of build-everything-in-all-my-cities when 91 French units (mostly Riflemen and Infantry, with a few Musketeers) showed up on my borders, in a part of my empire that I had taken from the recently-killed Chinese, who had in their turn taken from the also-dead Germans (neither of them were killed off by me, BTW). The French had a long-standing ROP agreement with me and weren't at war with anyone. Fearing an imminent invasion, I drafted a few Infantry and formed a line across their path to block access to my rail system. Then I cancelled the ROP with the French. Deprived of access to my extensive rail network, the troops left my empire, and I haven't seen them since. I wonder where they went.

In the meantime, I applied new technology, and started building lots of tanks and some extra Infantry. I had amassed about 60 or 70 tanks over about 5-10 turns when the Zulu got too tempted by a few workers I had working on the border and declared war to kill the workers off. Gee, poor Zulu, I almost felt sorry for them, declaring war on me when I was so able to kill them off. Over the course of a single turn that took me over an hour to play, I captured half of their cities with my new tank armies, fortified each with three Infantry, captured many Zulu workers, used the captured workers to build new railways to aid the offensive, and upgraded about half of my 200 Infantry to Mech Infantry.

Ah, 1796. That year will go down in history as a glorious year for the Japanese Empire (and the longest turn I have ever played in Civ3).

As an aside, I think a good way to pick a fight with an AI is to leave a lot of offensive troops sitting on their border and wait for them to attack you.

[Panag]

Re: Largest troop movement? And a suggestion to SOREN...

Originally posted by ColdFever
I am playing a Level-4-Game (Monarch) and had a peaceful coexistence with the French for 5700 years, when they suddenly invaded my territory with a troop of 107 infantry units.

I guess, that's it... anybody else ever did see an attack with more than hundred units... and survived? What has been the largest number of AI units you ever noticed moving in a troop?

--- Suggestion to Soren ---
There is a nice event in case of barbarian uprisings:

#SUMMARY_BARBARIAN_EXPLOSION_CITY
#advisor Military Surprised
We have heard reports of a massive barbarian uprising near $CITY0!

My suggestion: if there exists an embassy in another nation, it should be possible to notice a mass movement of troops, something like that:

#SUMMARY_MILITARY_EXPLOSION_CIV
#advisor Military Surprised
We have heard reports of a massive troop movements in $CIVNAME!

hi ,

would this not be a job for the intel agency , ........?

have a nice day

[Panag]

Originally posted by Jaybe
For me, the largest AI stack I've seen is 60+. They were 'just passing through' to the poor Aztecs on the other side of me, without an RoP agreement with me.

It all started when I signed an MPP with them, and then the 'hot-headed' Aztecs made a pass through my borders in force. I was much bigger than they. I told them to scram, they declared war, The Chinese chimed in (their's is the huge stack), and over the years have gotten most everyone else against the Aztecs. I long since have taken all the good Aztec land and made peace with them. The Chinese stack of everything from Swordsmen to Infantry is still about 6 squares from what's left of the Aztecs.

I have now closed my border with the Chinese so they don't continue streaming across. Besides, they (and everyone else) finally got their act together and invaded by sea. Meanwhile, the Aztec communists have 8-12 1-and-2 size towns left, a couple dozen infantry and 1-4 tanks, all in hills and tundra (I have a spy in their war ministry), and basically no resources. I couldn't help them if I wanted to, trade-wise -- no harbors and no roads.

End of ramble...

JB

hi ,

got some nuke's , ...........
or some money to spare , ........?

have a nice day

[Jaybe]

Originally posted by panag
got some nuke's , ...........
or some money to spare , ........?

panag,
It's just approaching time to be able to build Tactical Nukes, but no-one has built 'the bomb' yet. If it was available, I THINK the Chinese are my only obstacle to a cultural win.

... or were you referencing something else?

Have a fulfilling day,

JB

[Panag]

Originally posted by Jaybe

panag,
It's just approaching time to be able to build Tactical Nukes, but no-one has built 'the bomb' yet. If it was available, I THINK the Chinese are my only obstacle to a cultural win.

... or were you referencing something else?

Have a fulfilling day,

JB

hi ,

hmmm , money , .......so they can buy units , close the border with them , so their enemy cant move true , ..........give them a city with everything in it , when they are down to a couple city's , make sure no one can get at that city , ..................

allas , you could also start a war with the foreign troops that "thread" on you , .........;

have a nice day