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  • #76
    Originally posted by nato


    Thus robbing history of the epic line "Et tu Firaxis?"

    What great ammunition he could have given the whiners camp!

    nice nato, very nice

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    • #77
      Originally posted by nato
      It was just a joke.

      Caesar is supposed to say "Et Tu Brute?" when he is murdered, because he is hurt that his friend Brutus is also one of the assassins. Et tu Brute? is a very famous line ... at least in America. I was joking that if Caesar had complained about Firaxis when he was murdered, like you had joked, then he could have instead said "Et tu Firaxis?" Then anti-Firaxis people could blame Firaxis, the source of all woes for them, for killing Caesar too.

      It was straightforward to me at least ... oh well thats humor.
      Oh
      Well, for what I know, Caesar was supposed to say "Tu quoque, fili ?". So I did not made the connection
      Science without conscience is the doom of the soul.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Akka le Vil


        Oh
        Well, for what I know, Caesar was supposed to say "Tu quoque, fili ?". So I did not made the connection
        I even think it was "Tu quoque mei filii."
        Nym
        "Der Krieg ist die bloße Fortsetzung der Politik mit anderen Mitteln." (Carl von Clausewitz, Vom Kriege)

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        • #79
          Well now we're even! I hadn't heard your version. The best I could make out of it was "You that that girl", so I looked it up. I found this:

          his famous last words were: Tu quoque, Brute, fili mi! (or Et tu, Brute. The meaning is "Even you, Brutus, my son?")
          I guess we were both right.

          btw, thanks asleepathewheel! ... I was worried I wasn't making sense.
          Good = Love, Love = Good
          Evil = Hate, Hate = Evil

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          • #80
            Well, what's important to remember is that it was Firaxis' fault that Caesar was assassinated.
            Science without conscience is the doom of the soul.

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            • #81
              Asking if you can cheat at solitaire is like asking if you can cheat at masturbation. It's only cheating if you are playing against another human. You can't cheat a machine.
              "In Italy for 30 years under the Borgias, they had warfare, terror, murder and bloodshed. But they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland, they had brotherly love. They had 500 years of democracy and peace. And what did that produce? The cuckoo clock."
              —Orson Welles as Harry Lime

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              • #82
                Originally posted by MosesPresley
                Asking if you can cheat at solitaire is like asking if you can cheat at masturbation. It's only cheating if you are playing against another human. You can't cheat a machine.
                What's wrong with masturbating with a machine?

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                • #83
                  I don't think that exactly was what he was talking about.

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                  • #84
                    Do you consider re-loading previous saves to be cheating?


                    Yes, unless it's because of a slip of the fingers (Jesus! I didn't want o attack that tank with my infantry).
                    12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                    Stadtluft Macht Frei
                    Killing it is the new killing it
                    Ultima Ratio Regum

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                    • #85
                      Yes, I consider it cheating, and I do it if the situation asks for it, that is if things go terribly wrong, that I couldn't even imagine it would go that way. Playing a game is in my case for fun, if I want to keep it fun sometimes I have to reload, but I have succeeded to finish games without reloading though.

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                      • #86
                        As has been stated, you play the game for fun. If not reloading to a more enjoyable spot, but instead living as 5 other civs pound you into the dirt for not handing over 10 gold is enjoyable to you, then go ahead. The rest of us can "cheat" and enjoy our games.

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                        • #87
                          i do it loads, since i'm still playing on my first game file so i don't know exactly what happens when i do certain things.
                          Help negate the vegiterian movement!
                          For every animal you don't eat! I'm gunna eat three!!

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Trip
                            As has been stated, you play the game for fun. If not reloading to a more enjoyable spot, but instead living as 5 other civs pound you into the dirt for not handing over 10 gold is enjoyable to you, then go ahead. The rest of us can "cheat" and enjoy our games.
                            EXACTLY.

                            That is why the lack of options in Civ 3 compared to Civ 2 is so bad.

                            Scenario-building was ooe of the best parts of Civ 2. The Cheat Mode was very useful for many things and not just "cheating". With it we could even switich sides in a scenario and see if we could do better that the AI did. Of course we could, but it was fun.

                            Firaxis is so annoying they even took away the "multi.sav" cheat with the 1.21 patch.

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                            • #89
                              One reason to do this is that it takes ages to play a game, i'm currently doing pritty well in the year 2120ad. Now, if i got wiped out some how, you don't expect me to start all over again? do you. This is even more so by the fact that i don't like early game, i like to own a pritty large island/continent and expand from there! So i'm bound to load my last save game to save me from 2 weeks of getting this far!
                              Help negate the vegiterian movement!
                              For every animal you don't eat! I'm gunna eat three!!

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                              • #90
                                Yo Hazie - what's wrong with the early game? It gives your empire a history, and I, at least, end up caring more about what happens to it than if I happened to start off in control of a continent-sized empire. With the scenario editor promised in the XP, you could do just that - but then all the hard work's been done for you; all you have to do is assume control of a very big, very powerful empire.
                                Up the Irons!
                                Rogue CivIII FAQ!
                                Odysseus and the March of Time
                                I think holding hands can be more erotic than 'slamming it in the ass' - Pekka, thinking that he's messed up

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