Poll... what about MP

[DrFell]

I'd love it if MP came out. BUT, some changes NEED to be made to make it viable. Firstly, there needs to be a 2x2x-like quick game option as there is in civ2 (cheaper production and terrain costs/2 to double movement? doubled production and doubled unit speeds?). Secondly, there needs to be some kind of simultaneous play mode (better than civ2 where the host could go up and kill all your units without you even seeing him) and the game needs to be made to run a bit quicker than it does right now on many PCs. Third, there need to be some rule tweaks I believe to balance the game better. Firaxis seem to have sorted out the resource issue a bit better, and bearing in mine few games will have MORE than 4 human players (so on a standard map most players would be ok with resources), I think the way they are right now is ok. They also did well sorting out despot rushing (although I think 20 turns would be better for unhappiness levels). But the great leader/forbidden palace problem needs sorting, and there are others - I might write a post later going through all the current problems with the game (that would prevent MP). Maybe some kind of list of MP features needs writing up?

Edit:I meant more not few.... as if most games will have 5 players or more...

[Flandrien]

I am still waiting to see when Firaxis will explain what they mean with 'cool multiplayer concepts'.

[Ming]

DrFell... While I do disagree with some of what you are saying, I think we can all agree that the success of MP will probably be based on...

OPTIONS... OPTIONS... and MORE OPTIONS...

I think they MUST provide us with option menus that will allow us to pick the type of game we want without having to go in and use the editor.

Everybody has a different opinion of what will or will not make a good MP game... so it is obvious...

GIVE US TONS OF GAME OPTIONS!

[Melboz99]

I really want MP!!!

I have 3 very good friends, they are still in high school so we spend alot of time together. But is is so darn b o r i n g to watch somebody else play. So what do we do? We play Civ2. It is tottaly outdated. Last night my friend had it up to here with the AI, The Egyptions came to China, made peace, then attacked the capitol, won, and divided his nation. Two turns later, they did it again, he went from 8 cities all bout pop4-8, in 3000bc, down to 2 pop 3's. And that's not all! The whole time We were getting techs one per turn for maybe 5 turns when we were really gettin'em 4-6 turns, and my friend built a 30 turn library in 1! Way too many glitches to have fun, pluss, diplomacy is one way. But we play it anyway because we have waited since August 28 to get a Multi Civ3, In fact thats why I spent 50$ on it, and believe me, I DON'T have alot of money. In fact, out of those close to 6 months I have spent a total of less than 24 hours. Not worth the money In my opinoin. I was led to belive Multi would be in game, then I found out I would be in a patch, 7 patches later and I feel VERY Cheated.

Well those are my 2cents

[DATarbell]

Ninot: The tournament idea sounds awesome! I'd get blown away in the first round probably, cause I'm far more deliberate than quick. But still, I figure I'd learn more watching the remaining competitions than I have in (all the games I've played + the manual + the Civilopedia + all of the forum postings I've read). It would be truly awesome!

Skanky: Hope you know I was just kidding! (It's so darned hard to express inflection in postings.)

[Jack_www]

Lots of people dont want to play Civ3 mp because it would take too long. One thing I know you would never be able to play 16 civs in a mp game. Most people have 56k connections, and I think they would have a hard time playing with 8 civs let alone 16. Besides this game was optimized to be played with 8 civs on standard map, that is why I think turns take so long with 16 civs on huge map, was not optimized for that. Anyways there are ways you could speed up the game with user created mods, so that you could get to the modern age in a few hours instead of days, everything could cost less. Would need some play testing to make sure it is balanced, but it could be done and make Civ3 mp something that is actually fun to play with in the span of a few hours, maybe even two.

[Dinner]

I want MP but if it isn't better sorted out then the nonpatched version of Civ3 then...

[Mars]

I presonally hope they release an expansion pack soon with mp and scenario editors. The later is another topic so i won't get into it but I know a lot of my friends who didn't bye the game just because it didn't have mp. I personally think i would enjoy playing mp even with civ2 like multiplayer capibabilites (hey they could release a patch later for the options.) I never really played much of mp with civ2 but i really want to play mp for civ3.

And on the topic of play balance, i don't see how the spread of minerals is any more disruptive in human games than AI ones. It adds a flavor if you start out with no iron but the other human players do. If you can't compet well that's too bad for you better luck next time but it adds strategical challenges and flavor. What a boring game when everything always starts off completely even with the same number of minerals same type, same type of islands etc. Its part of the game get over it.

[aahz_capone]

Re: to aahz_capone

Originally posted by TheDarkCavalier


Hmm... don't you find the game GOOD?!

I must reply that I LIKE the game. Yes, I LIKE the game. I would LOVE to ADORE the game, but I can't, for some bloody reason. I WANT to LOVE this game, but it's like your girlfriend dyed her hair and because you love her you want to love it, but you can't. In the end telling her the truth will get you smacked (or possibly SMAC'd?).

For those of you w/ no or no previous girlfriends or other such refrence point, go out and get pissed or read a book.


About tournaments, YES!!! unfortunately I'm now in a HUGEmap game with everyone and loads of land thus so many cities that every turn takes enough time to watch another episode of Star Trek.

[Dauphin]

I won't play CivIII again until MP is an option. AI is not as fun as human opponents.

Same reason why I only play CivII MP games.

[ColdWizard]

Originally posted by aahz_capone
I could wait for a few months for MP.......... but so that it's just as "great as the rest of the game"?!?! EXCUSE ME?!! It's had better be A LOT better then the rest of the game.

civ3 is ok, but i've had more fun playing SimGolf

[godinex]

MP is Multi Player_?

[Mars]

yes MP is multiplayer, wow you must really be a spammer i just responded to a rather short excuse of an argument earlier. You better watch out if the mods catch you your toast and got to start all over agian, they like slapping hefty PCRs on people who spam consistently

[TheDarkCavalier]

OMHG

Originally posted by ColdWizard



civ3 is ok, but i've had more fun playing SimGolf

Sim GOLF?!?! SIM GOLF?!?!?!?!?!?! That's the gayest game EVER published. EVEN WARCRAFT ONE RULES SIMGOLF! I'm not really a fan of Sims and stuff but that game (piece of &%$# to be precise) is just DISGUSTING!

[DrFell]

Originally posted by Ming
GIVE US TONS OF GAME OPTIONS!

No kidding. I'd like to see easy ways of speeding up and slowing down tech rates, a 2x2x/2x1x type mode and a whole host of other things I'm too lazy to go into right now.