Ain't it time to move this thread in the CtP2 forum? This whole poll is IMHO nothing but .
I gave CtP2 a fair chance, and reinstalled and played it in the last 2 evenings, with the Cradle 1.2 mod. I got it running, though it looks awful, in 2 languages, almost unreadable
The AI has not much changed, sorry, but it is still incredibly dumb. I started a "hard" game, all else standard. I have stacks of 3 barbarians fleeing from my one wounded slinger, I have other civs declaring war but not attacking,
I have move delays of up to 3 minutes (heavily varies) in 6000BC, and the interface is not much better than the one in Civ3.
In 6000 BC the turns should wiz by. I would suggest either correctly re-installing the mod, or get your computer looked at.
Early game tedium.
The diplomacy has a lot of options, most of which are useless, because the AI does care still less about treaties than in Civ3. Trade has a great interface (compared with the poor one in Civ3), but it's not worth the efford due to piracy
The maps are ugly, compared with those in Civ3 (I'm not talking about graphics but geographical correctness).
Again, are Civ 3's maps geographically correct?
Sorry, but are you SURE you're playing the same game as I am?
). Intro and wonder movies are nice, but I skip them anyway.
Public works have the huge disadvantage, that you can't rush a project by putting more work force in it (i.e. more workers). There is no opportunity to take influence to a city's food/production/gold output by moving citizens to other tiles.
War seems to be the only solution to solve diplomatic problems, and the only option to save me from the tedium. But it's not a wargame.
As in Civ 3, you can go to war, but that is your option. I have played a couple of games whereby, after mnay years of wooing a particular civ, that it warmed to me and eventually wanted to ally with me.
Please don't think that I want to rant about CtP2 or put it down. I played and enjoyed it about 8 months last year. I reinstalled it now, patched and modded it, just to check how I would like it after my experiences with Civ3. I think, this was the reason of this thread.
If Cradle was not to your liking, then I would suggest trying the Apolyton Pack or Med Mod. The AI isn't as tough.
Final comment:
There have always been two things that irritated me about the civ series:
1) lots of workers to move around; and
2) hundreds of military units to painfully move around the map.
In CTP2, with Public Works and the Army concept, these two problems have disappeared. Now, I am enjoying building up my civilization without all the tedium and clickfests. Now I can concentrate on strategy, diplomacy and managing my empire instead of wearing out my finger and mouse in an endless series of clickfests. . .
In addition, without the hundreds (and thousands) of workers mindlessly running around, my computer turns go faster (even when playing on a huge map with 28 civilizations)!
Of course, there are many people who LOVE to move around hundreds of workers each and every turn. All the power to them
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