Can a patch do the trick for civIII ?

[Martinus Magnificus]

Can Civ III really be fixed with a patch?

Personally, I think most things can be fixed, but I'm not sure the following will/can ever be fixed by a patch:
- the combat system, lacking firepower
- corruption, based on palace distance (who came up with that flawed idea in the first place?)
- game speed issues
- modification issues, since most game files are hard coded

I'd like to hear your opinions on this.

NB: I'm not asking you to list all the flaws of the game, 'cause I think we have seen enough of those threads already.

[xane]

A patch can make anything work, whether you release one or not is another matter ...

[Martinus Magnificus]

I think we can be fairly sure that Firaxis will release more patches (after all, there's one coming up this friday, and Civ II had many patches). So the question is not if they will release more patches, but if these patches can and will fix the apparent bugs and other features that tend to unbalance the game.
Think of basic features like the combat system, which I think is unrealistic: do you really believe they'll redesign that from scratch? I don't think so.

[Robert]

- the combat system, lacking firepower
- corruption, based on palace distance (who came up with that flawed idea in the first place?)

these things aren't flawed or bugs.
they're a part of the game. (and they reflect reality)

the other 2 things............
I don't know. I can hardly imagine that they can speed up the game with a patch. I think modification can be expanded in a patch.

[Wrong_shui]

Originally posted by CyberShy
they're a part of the game. (and they reflect reality)

Like planes not destroying boats?

Dont tell me, in this "Reality" spearmen fight tanks often, ppl where shoes on there hands and hamburgers eat ppl?

[Martinus Magnificus]

I'm well aware that many of you don't agree with me on the combat system and corruption, but that's not what this thread is about.

[Wrong_shui]

Well threads always go funny

[Martinus Magnificus]

Wrong_shui, I agree with you, but we have others threads for complaining about CivIII's wrongs.
The question here is: Do you believe that patches will be enough, or do you think the whole concept of Civ III is flawed and can't be properly patched. I fear it is the latter. Think about game speed for instance. That's not something that can be fixed easily (if at all) with a patch.

[mbarloewen]

I think that the patch will go a long way in enhancing the experience.

I really think that eventually they need to address the late-game tediousness. Personally I find that I enjoy the ancient through industrial period emensely and then lose interest in my games during the modern age (Even when the outcome is still in doubt) There is just too many units, too much polution, too many workers,too many naval units, too much of everything. Does anyone else agree?

Mike

[Setsuna]

Originally posted by Wrong_shui
where shoes on there hands and hamburgers eat ppl?

Hey, another Simpsons fan!

*EDIT*

I was pressed for time when I originally made the post.

[Robert]

Wrong_shui, it's indeed not really 'real' that bombers can't destroy ships.

I think the spearman / tank thingy is quiet normal.
It happens pherhaps in 1% of the battles, and I think that's not that strange. Tanks can get stuck in terrain, something might go wrong. Spearmen can climb on the tank and there's nothing the tank can do about it.

but the topic has been discussed before.

[TheDarkside]

Originally posted by Wrong_shui


Like planes not destroying boats?

Dont tell me, in this "Reality" spearmen fight tanks often, ppl where shoes on there hands and hamburgers eat ppl?

Uhhh.. if you're not wearing your shoes on your hands then where do you wear them, on your feet?! Don't be so silly! How you supposed to type while wearing shoes on your feet?!

[DATarbell]

Everything can be fixed, and anything can be changed via a patch. However, many of the things that are being complained about on these boards are design and gameplay issues, not programming flaws or technological limitations.

What is most interesting to me is how many of the complaints have to do with features that were specifically requested on these very forums while the game was in development. That, and the fact that the game is simply harder to beat, requires new and varied strategies, and so forth than any of the previous Civ's (at comparable difficulty levels).

Thank you, Firaxis, for listening in the past, for responding to our requests, for being so prompt with the first patch, and for continuing to listen now. And thank you for the sleepless nights! (Yup, you did it to me again!)

[Bubba_B]

Seem to care.....

The fact that Soren and the group are surfing these forums and posting replies(They even replied to one of my Threads), shows they are working hard on what really needs to be fixed. I think the combat and corruption issues are more personal prefences, and need to be addressed in the editor. I expect and hope for a game that will cotinue to evolve and grow (that probably means an expansion pack rather than a bunch of patches ).

[Setsuna]

Originally posted by TheDarkside


Uhhh.. if you're not wearing your shoes on your hands then where do you wear them, on your feet?! Don't be so silly! How you supposed to type while wearing shoes on your feet?!

It's from an episode of The Simpsons. Lisa was telling Bart about how the water always spins clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere. So to confirm, Bart spins his globe around and points to Argentina and then "Rand McNally" (Thinking it is a country ) and asks if he's got it right. Lisa then decides to play with Bart by telling him about customs in "Rand McNally."