Why do the AI ignore my ZOC even with a fortress?

[Asesino_Virtual]

Yeah. Why?

[ThaddeusAlexander]

Sorry I can't help ... I have this same problem Grrrrr

Maybe it goes along with the rest of AI cheating - their irrigation producing extra food before they switch out of Despotism, and the corruption stuff ....

Cheers ... Lets make the best of it i guess :
~Alex

[Dis]

I didn't think there was a ZOC in this game.

[Kaak]

one word: broken... =(

[ThaddeusAlexander]

Originally posted by Dissident
I didn't think there was a ZOC in this gae.

There is, but it works differently.

Basically, if an enemy enters your zone of control then you get to automatically attack it ... BUT only if 2 situations are true:

1) you are in a fortress
2) your unit is capable of doing so (look in the civlopedia for details on which units can)

Broken sounds right now to

OH well ... maybe it'll be fixed ...

Cheers!
~Alex

[Asesino_Virtual]

Well, i have a rifleman in a fortress, and he just looks the landscape in the middle of a war.

[Zorkk]

from the manual

Like it say's in the manual....

Zones of control: The idea that any unit can interdict the terrain squares that surround it has been discarded. This means that units of different nationalities can move freely around among each other. However, the idea that some military units can take advantage of their speed and the proximity of an enemy unit remains.These units can launch an attack on any enemy unit foolish enough to pass through an adjacent terrain square.

from pages 43-44

Zorkk

[ThaddeusAlexander]

Re: from the manual

Originally posted by Zorkk
Like it say's in the manual....

Zones of control: The idea that any unit can interdict the terrain squares that surround it has been discarded. This means that units of different nationalities can move freely around among each other. However, the idea that some military units can take advantage of their speed and the proximity of an enemy unit remains.These units can launch an attack on any enemy unit foolish enough to pass through an adjacent terrain square.

from pages 43-44

Zorkk

We realize this, but it doesn't always happen - my horsemen don't always automatically attack those civs that i'm at war with!

Also, i says that if you are in a fortress that no matter what unit you are, you gain the ability ... but it won't work either ...

Thus our problem ..

Cheers
~Alex

[Raleigh]

Alexander, you know under despotism you can still get more than 2food, etc. per square right? I mean if you produce 3 you get 2. If you produce 4 you get three. I wasn't sure if you meant the computer got all 3 or all 4. Despotism just subtrancts 1 for everything over 2.

[Easy Rhino]

ZOC makes me sad

folks, I've had FORTRESSES filled with TANKS, and they still didn't seem to make opportunity attacks.

However, I have seen (rarely) opportunity attacks happen.

So my theory is that one or two things are happening:

1) There is a goofy bug preventing ZOC's from working as described.
2) There is an intentional limitation to ZOC's. But no one knows what it is, it's not in the manual, and it happens the vast majority of the time (in which case it should change).

ER

[Grim Legacy]

Hmm. My faster units do take shots at passing goons... but I haven't looked into the fortress situation -but I remember reading they should grant automatic ZOC.

My impression was that ZOC is a random thing -it happens some of the time, but not always.

[Special_Olympic]

My cavalry has always fired at passing units, but I haven't seen many other units do it.

[GodSpawn]

My mechanised infantry certainly takes pot shots at passing enemies, but it doesn't seem to do it every time. I'm pretty sure there's a bug lurking here somewhere.

[xane]

I think it may have something to do with fortifying the unit, not actually being in a Fortress, but using the "F" action, which can be done anywhere.

[Asesino_Virtual]

Damn!. I think its a nasty bug. It makes my Maginot line useless!