Re: A mind is a terrible thing to waste...
First off when did I say something about a non-gunpowder unit? What I said was was in the right circumstances a few men cant kill a tank. Please dont try and change an argument if you cant win it. Its bad form.
As for what are the right circumstances there are way to many to list. If you had a clue you would know that.
Once again for you since you dont seem to read whats posted we were not talking about a roman legion nor a tank outfit. Stick to the argument. As for advancing under cover close enough to destroy a tank, you got it sunshine, thats how its done in the real world. Add to it that button tanks have very limited field of visions (and the closer to the tank the more limited it is) and its not that hard.
It there for shooting at infantry yes. It also has a poor arc of fire, much worse that the turret MG just like I said. Are you saying thats wrong or just not understanding what I said?
No your rationalizing that M2HB= no one can get near tank, which is as stupid as it is false. As I point out its a hell of alot more easy to kill a tank then you or your buddy VetteroX like to think but then again the two of you have never been around them.
I was defending spearmen where? I pointed out that amJordan1 was right about getting so close to a tank where it cant use its weapons against you which again is true in real life. Maybe you need to reread that post.
You should try it, you might also try reading whats posted.
No the man was killed before they opened the hatch by the officers pistol. The fact still remains he was killed by the pistol, and the same thing would have happen to any other crew members in the tank. Same thing happend numbers of times in WW2 also.
Never said they were child. Your the one whining about "sending tanks into no mans land without infantry support?" then later on in the post bring up a tank moving. I guess you think its only fair if you change the circumstances in your favor.
Most of the modern tanks power assisted turrets can easily out slew a pivot from a dead stop. And a driver isnt going to spin around trying to find someone outside his tank who could be up to no good. Anyone thinking they would would be a fool. If anything they would drive off as fast as they could thus limiting what that person could do and allowing the turret to be able to get to a point where it could depress on the person. Spinning like a top ??
Umm are you really that thick or is that the best you can come up with? If your too stupid to understand what I said it can be distilled to this " The closer you get to a tank the more limited its arcs of fire become just the same as a person looking through a telescope has a wide field of view at long range but his field of view is no more than a few inches at point blank. I never said the gun doesnt work any more at close range moron. I said the gun is useless against a target just outside of the tank. Please dont try and twist it into something else
Gee you said "But not with three high schoolers and a homemade Molotov..." and now when its pointed out you try and dismiss it? If your going to make a stupid statement admit your wrong when your called on it
And the presence of armor on the battle field has what to do with the fact that my statement that a few men can kill a tank? Thats right sunshine, nothing. The only ignorance here is you trying to obscure what the original arguement was.
Maybe when you turn 18 you'll join the service and see how things work in real life and will stop talking out of your hat.
Originally posted by Venger
So what are the right circumstances? When should a non-gunpowder unit take out a tank unit?
So what are the right circumstances? When should a non-gunpowder unit take out a tank unit?
As for what are the right circumstances there are way to many to list. If you had a clue you would know that.
Originally posted by Venger
So how are these forces to kill the tank? Do they transport in? You expect them to advance in cover close enough to destroy a tank outfit. How many people do you think we're talking about here? A roman legion versus a tank batallion. Do the math sparky.
So how are these forces to kill the tank? Do they transport in? You expect them to advance in cover close enough to destroy a tank outfit. How many people do you think we're talking about here? A roman legion versus a tank batallion. Do the math sparky.
Originally posted by Venger
So WHY is the gun on there? The Sherman carried a .50 cal and twin .30's. Most WW2 era tanks carried at least two, often three AI weapons. Do you think the gun is on there for what, show?
So WHY is the gun on there? The Sherman carried a .50 cal and twin .30's. Most WW2 era tanks carried at least two, often three AI weapons. Do you think the gun is on there for what, show?
Originally posted by Venger
You are rationalizing your entire argument - under the "right circumstances" nearly everything is possible.
You are rationalizing your entire argument - under the "right circumstances" nearly everything is possible.
Originally posted by Venger
Is that your justification for defending the spearmen or three guys on your block theory of infantry anti-tank warfare?
Is that your justification for defending the spearmen or three guys on your block theory of infantry anti-tank warfare?
Originally posted by Venger
Oh great, you took the time to get a fact.
Oh great, you took the time to get a fact.
Originally posted by Venger
Ooops. So much for your fact. I saw the god damn thing, the guy was rolling over EVERYTHING, until he straddled himself over a center median. Only THEN were the cops able to get on the tank, pry into it, and kill the driver.
Ooops. So much for your fact. I saw the god damn thing, the guy was rolling over EVERYTHING, until he straddled himself over a center median. Only THEN were the cops able to get on the tank, pry into it, and kill the driver.
Originally posted by Venger
Are tanks mobile or immobile? Dork.
Are tanks mobile or immobile? Dork.
Originally posted by Venger
Which tank? Many, MANY tanks do not have a turret traversal rate that exceeds their turn rate.
Which tank? Many, MANY tanks do not have a turret traversal rate that exceeds their turn rate.
Originally posted by Venger
Another total mistatement of fact. Useless at close range? No, I think not - a gun is just as useless if you attack me from behind, are you going to argue a gun is useless at close range? Do you even think before you write this nonsense?
Another total mistatement of fact. Useless at close range? No, I think not - a gun is just as useless if you attack me from behind, are you going to argue a gun is useless at close range? Do you even think before you write this nonsense?
Originally posted by Venger
Nearly as apropos as getting beat by a concrete median. Who do you think is the larger group - tanks killed by infantry, or infantry killed by tanks? Why is the tank on the battlefied with all these inferiorities?
Nearly as apropos as getting beat by a concrete median. Who do you think is the larger group - tanks killed by infantry, or infantry killed by tanks? Why is the tank on the battlefied with all these inferiorities?
Originally posted by Venger
History laughs at your ignorance. Have you even examined what the presence of armor does to a battlefield?
History laughs at your ignorance. Have you even examined what the presence of armor does to a battlefield?
Maybe when you turn 18 you'll join the service and see how things work in real life and will stop talking out of your hat.
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