You left the coop early and got your head chopped off

[CapTVK]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse


I haven't seen anyone with a decent reputation as a player post a review yet. I consider the opinion of kindergarten players to be worthless.

I'm waiting till Ming and Rah have put this game through the wringer. I'm really surprised by the initial lack of scenario support.



Previously my attitude towards Civ3 was cordial/neutral


now it's close to neutral/icy...

[Delthayre]

I'm happy with it...that is it.

It plays fine for me, quite stable.

I really don't care about mp (to be honest this might be because I'm lousy at multi-player games for some reason).

If it was released early it might be the publisher (all to often it is, but I have no evidence to support this so take it with a pinch of salt).

Again, I remind people that patience is a lost virtue in our age...all will come in time, simply wait calmly.

[Case]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
The absence of multiplayer alone condemns them on the unfinished game point. This is a STANDARD FEATURE of TBS games.

I've seen a picture of the main menu which includes an option to 'load scenario'. But what do you know - there's no scenarios, and no way of making them

[Alexander's Horse]

I wish my words were backed with nuclear weapons

[Case]

Re: I'm happy with it...that is it.

Originally posted by Delthayre
Again, I remind people that patience is a lost virtue in our age...all will come in time, simply wait calmly.

...and pay an extra $50 for what should have been in the inital release...

[CapTVK]

And I demand tribute so that it may appease my attitude.

[Delthayre]

About patience and MP

I still think too many people are impatient.

However, if they do not release Multiplayer in a free patch (even if it is available in an expansion) I will complain.

[DarthVeda]

All will come in time? Prove it.

[dainbramaged13]

Originally posted by Case


I've seen a picture of the main menu which includes an option to 'load scenario'. But what do you know - there's no scenarios, and no way of making them

WRONG
there is plenty of good scenario support, and if you give up trying to have a starting location be your only method of getting civs to start where you want, and just accept it and build a city for each civ in the spot you want them to start, theres really nothing missing, except a good earth map, which plenty of peopel here will be making anyway. Yes, the editor is a bit lacking, but it will be complet++++fine, i assure you. just fyi, though, the capability to make scenarios is ALIVE AND WELL!

[RobRoy]

Originally posted by dainbramaged13
WRONG
there is plenty of good scenario support, and if you give up trying to have a starting location be your only method of getting civs to start where you want, and just accept it and build a city for each civ in the spot you want them to start, theres really nothing missing, except a good earth map, which plenty of peopel here will be making anyway. Yes, the editor is a bit lacking, but it will be complet++++fine, i assure you. just fyi, though, the capability to make scenarios is ALIVE AND WELL!

Umm...ace, 'fraid not. What there is plenty of is pretty menu tabs...

Scenarios would require an ability to place silly, inconsequential things like units and cities on a map. And that's just to get started. We can't even get started in the current environment. And if you want a scenario to be any good, it will usually require some kind of scripting language. While there is a possibility that the editors will be patched to allow basic scenario construction sometime soon, I haven't seen any talk of an event/scripting language at all (other than the denials that there was any plan to put such in the initial release).

Perhaps there's a terminology problem, here...if you mean simple modpacks, just customizing the rules and perhaps the maps, then yes, that very limited functionality is "alive and well", i assure you (well, assuming you don't want to do anything silly like play on a flat world, like a historical European or mid-eastern map...and assuming you don't mind your civilizations starting locations to be randomized).

[techumseh]

Originally posted by dainbramaged13


WRONG
there is plenty of good scenario support, and if you give up trying to have a starting location be your only method of getting civs to start where you want, and just accept it and build a city for each civ in the spot you want them to start, theres really nothing missing, except a good earth map, which plenty of peopel here will be making anyway. Yes, the editor is a bit lacking, but it will be complet++++fine, i assure you. just fyi, though, the capability to make scenarios is ALIVE AND WELL!

No dainbramaged, you are wrong. If you can't place units with the editor, if you can't trigger an event when a certain city falls, then you can't make a scenario. There is a very limited capacity to make mods with Civ3. That's all. You can make a Canadian or Polish civilization, or make your F-15 even better, but you can't [C-A-N'-T] recreate an actual historical situation. Can't. No. Really.

[Döbeln_2001]

Originally posted by techumseh
Well I have. It's incomplete and unstable.

What you running? Just got off a 3-hour session without instability, running Win XP. Just curious...

Regards / Döbeln 2001

[Roland Ehnström]

Stuie wrote:
"Why not try playing the game instead of coming around and being such a Yin."

ROTFLOL!!!

Best one in ages!

Peace!
-- Roland

[Dr. Nick]

Down with Firaxis! Booooooo!

[Jason]

No crashes here. Very positive experience so far.

Seriously, nothing personal to DV, but you aren't qualified to say anything very strongly just based on what goobers on Apolyton say. If you don't want to buy it play someone elses or something, but that's how you'll know this early in the release. A lot of the complainers don't know what they are talking about. IMO the problems are MP not being in and the editor not being complex enough. If they patch those instead of selling them I'm happy.

Chill, people. Trashing it before you play it, lol