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  • first impressions and response to crazy Avault review

    I've been playing this game without even a bathroom break for 12 hours.

    It installs in less than 5 minutes and is totally stable as far as I can tell.

    There is no problem scrolling at the end of the screen at all. (I don't know what kind of crack the Avault reviewer is smoking.) Go on, I dare you to try to find one.

    I have encountered no unit balance weirdness. So far, every single unit that had the statistical edge has won the fight. Almost to a fault.

    The AI does consistently seem to ask for more than it will return: e.g. "you give me your world map + Monarchy and you get my world map." The thing is, a lot of these deals end up being good for you anyway, so you end up taking them. I guess if you're neurotically hung up on "fairness" rather than winning it might get under your skin. It doesn't bother me because I'd rather the AI get its edge this way than by building Wonders in 2 or 3 turns.

    I've had no problem with corruption despite a medium large empire. I have a nice tight empire with little or no dead space between my cities. Cities have lots of production and commerce and 0-2 points of corruption on average.

    I've had no problem with war wariness so far. I've generally followed a peaceful builder style in this game, though I had one pretty long war early on against a neighbor.

    The wonder screens are really weak. It seems to have been an executive decision by Firaxis to focus their time elsewhere. That whole "we found a solution that didn't jar you out of the game environment" is sounding like a PR real line. As a reward goes, the screens are very underwhelming: pretty much nothing to get excited about, in fact.

    In conrast, the palace that your pleased citizens build you looks great -- so much better than the lame Civ2 throne room. You'll actually be kind of psyched to build it.

    The map generation is as good as you've heard.

    I personally think the graphics look great.

    The sound is nice but low-key and repetitive. It's going to get old

    If you're peaceful, you can easily play an entire game without getting a leader.

    The build queues work fine.

    The governor AI does seem to work. The cities are beginning to suggest things to build based on my selection habits and style of play. It also seems to be inferring like selection criteria; if you consistently build libraries, it will prompt you to build libraries and also universities when that technology allows it.

    The only senario I've found has just been a map of earth. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

    I've culturally gobbled up three cities so far, including one where the English came and dropped a settler on my shore and just built a city. I didn't have to lift a finger and it was very satisfying.


    More later.

  • #2
    I agree that the AVault reviewer is a complete moron and has no idea about strategy games and also lacks basic problem solving skills.

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    • #3
      That's really too bad- I like Avault, but I won't even go read this review because of the impression I am getting of it from your comments.

      Avault review:
      CivIII:

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      • #4
        Thanks for the review, randomturn.

        Good to hear a fair review from someone who knows what they are talking about

        You even included fair criticism of Civ 3
        I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Anunikoba
          That's really too bad- I like Avault, but I won't even go read this review because of the impression I am getting of it from your comments.
          Uhh? Can't you read and judge by yourself?
          Are you afraid it could do any damage to your brain? Short on free time? Too lazy?

          Randomturn, how can you suppose that someone noticing a slow scroll (and there are some, others than Avault Reviewers) is smoking crack?

          It's only the usual mess with different PC platform / OS / DirectX / drivers, etc. that a good large beta test is more likely to largely address (but Firaxis missed, you know).

          We saw some sad stories like this with SMAC (but I was lucky, regarding this compatibility issue) and SMACX (demo never worked stable for me, so I passed on it), not to mention others games, of course.

          Still left is that "black magic" feeling about many games working flawlessy with a system that suddendly show "compatibility trouble) with Civ III, but that's another story.
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          • #6
            Yeah, I've played two and a half games now and I don't know what scrolling problem he was talking about. The map moves around beautifully.

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            • #7
              Are you afraid it could do any damage to your brain? Short on free time? Too lazy?
              I know that im not going to read it, and probably randomturns review just gives me a reason not to read it.

              So im going to be honest, yes im afraid it will damage my brain, and i have plenty of free time but im extreamly lazy

              PS. sounds to me like the avault guy needs to clean his mouse, or get a new one. Funny how faulty testing equipment can skew a review.

              hey that rymes, skew a review.
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              • #8
                The Avault reviewer was obviously a civ newbie. Maybe for other civ newbies the article was helpful, I'll never know, and I don't care. He said that Civ 2 had bio terrorism. Come on.... CTP hello/???!!

                If I were rating his review... out of 5... writer credibility, 1.

                I'm going to have my Civ 3 in 4 or 5 hours.
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #9
                  [QUOTE] Originally posted by SoulAssassin
                  The Avault reviewer was obviously a civ newbie. Maybe for other civ newbies the article was helpful, I'll never know, and I don't care. He said that Civ 2 had bio terrorism. Come on.... CTP hello/???!!

                  I guess poisoning a city water supply would count as bio terrorism but yes it does sound as if he's muddled CTP with Civ2

                  Rich
                  "You no take Candle!"
                  - a unnamed Kobold.

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                  • #10
                    and SMAC with Civ2 - since when could you launch satellites in Civ2?

                    Oh and bioterrorism is in SMAC, in the form of Genetic warfare - so unless CTP could launch satellites, I reckon he was confusing with SMAC. Someone enlighten me?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Chowlett
                      and SMAC with Civ2 - since when could you launch satellites in Civ2?

                      Oh and bioterrorism is in SMAC, in the form of Genetic warfare - so unless CTP could launch satellites, I reckon he was confusing with SMAC. Someone enlighten me?
                      Unless they mean the 'Apollo program gives you entire map' thing? Thats about the only Civ2 feature I can think of that would equate to launching satellites.

                      Rich.
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                      - a unnamed Kobold.

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                      • #12
                        [QUOTE] Originally posted by BigRich
                        Originally posted by SoulAssassin
                        The Avault reviewer was obviously a civ newbie. Maybe for other civ newbies the article was helpful, I'll never know, and I don't care. He said that Civ 2 had bio terrorism. Come on.... CTP hello/???!!

                        I guess poisoning a city water supply would count as bio terrorism but yes it does sound as if he's muddled CTP with Civ2

                        Rich
                        Bio-terrorism is the use of a biological agent. Poison doesn't count. But I did forget about the poison part. I still think they should have included terrorism in the game.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Chowlett
                          and SMAC with Civ2 - since when could you launch satellites in Civ2?

                          Oh and bioterrorism is in SMAC, in the form of Genetic warfare - so unless CTP could launch satellites, I reckon he was confusing with SMAC. Someone enlighten me?
                          You're right. The thing I don't like is he included SMAC in the Civ series. IT WASN'T A CIV GAME.

                          Civ1 -> Civ 2 -> Civ 3 <-----Civ Series

                          SMAC, Colonization <-----Civ-like games outside the civ series

                          CTP, CTP2 <----Civ clones that had nothing to do with Sid Meier

                          All in all, this guy isn't going to win a pulitzer.... ever.
                          To us, it is the BEAST.

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                          • #14
                            I actually had the same reaction as Draco: this guy must have some ind of problem with his mouse, because the scrolling is flawless and my system is no big deal, with an old video card

                            I can't read the guy's mind, what's up with that corruption? He must have had cities all over the place and stayed with monarchy well into the moden age. Or maybe even despotism/anarchy. For a city to have everything but one or two bars blackd out to corruption as he claims, that's pretty much the only way that can happen. And I think that tells you all you need to know about his familiarity with Civ.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by randomturn
                              I actually had the same reaction as Draco: this guy must have some ind of problem with his mouse, because the scrolling is flawless and my system is no big deal, with an old video card

                              I can't read the guy's mind, what's up with that corruption? He must have had cities all over the place and stayed with monarchy well into the moden age. Or maybe even despotism/anarchy. For a city to have everything but one or two bars blackd out to corruption as he claims, that's pretty much the only way that can happen. And I think that tells you all you need to know about his familiarity with Civ.
                              He probably sold his palace off because he set his science rate to max. Considering he is a newbie, it could have been any number of things. Stupidy is like a snowflake, it comes in an infinite number of forms.

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