Civ IV: The List

[Jamison]

I know this has been talked to death, but I really do think it is a good idea. A social enginnering thing (alaa smac). Not futuristic, but just something that lets us customize our civ. It think the Commuism, Republic, Democracy are too out of date. Example: what kind of economy do you want your civ too have? Is it a peaceful civ, or warlike? And have the choices impact how other civs look at you. Have bonus's and punishments, ranging; for the choices you make. You want to have a depoist government?, but with huge military power? Cool. I know I will get flamed like a mo fo. But I really want to be able customize my civ; not just say "ok I'm a republic".

[java4me]

Originally posted by Immortal Wombat
SCRIPTING
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Civ3 patch, civ4, whatever, just get it in

You and me both!!!

[DarkCloud]

Updated Completely.
And Organized.

[DarkCloud]

Updated!

Anyone have any good ideas?

[Yoleus]

In my dreams

Feature I would like for Civ IV:
1) a good designer team that DOES NOT LEAVE during development I am not blaming Brian Raynolds for going, it is just that I would like him not to leave the job halfway through.
2) No silly projects to steal time and resources to the developers (Dinosaurs? Dinosaurs?? They have been extinct for a quite long time, why do you want to dig them out of the grave? Sid Meier's Golf. I mean, no comment needed. It is a joke in itself)
3) an UNIQUE COMPLETE release!!! Something like, you know, MP, scenarios, an editor. Not 6 versions, 12 patches and the "mod it yourself, yes edit the text files, you just have to rewrite this AI code" mantra.

[Blake]

I just dont want to have to watch hundreds of my allies units waltz back and forth inside their borders every turn *sob*.

Is a "Dont watch allies/peace/enemies moves" (except combat) too much to ask for? (wasn't for SMAC)

And I'd really appreciate the "Dont zoom to units with orders" command from SMAC, if not familliar with this order it means that a unit with orders (say Automated Worker) just does his work 'off screen' and the view doesn't switch to him, this would save heaps of time later in the game when I have 50 automated workers...

I'd also like the option to have automated workers just sit somewhere and stratch there butt when no work is needed to be done (instead of becoming un-automated, I mean, what am I supposed to do with him?). Sooner of later pollution will pop up, or I'll capture a bit of land, and he can activate and get to work.
Note this should be an option, because earlier in the game it makes sense to add bored workers to city populations, but later in the game it doesn't, and the hassle of rebuilding him later outweighs the slight benefit....


I'll echo R for railroad instead of shift-R, and all the keyboard shortcuts should be cleaned up to reduce the number requiring a shift/ctrl-key to be held down.

Thats actually mostly stuff which should be fixed in the expansion, rather than Civ4... but anyway.

[DarkCloud]

Notes:
1.) I'll get to Blake's ideas later
2.) I completely updated the list, added a few new categories and about 20-30 ideas.

[monkspider]

1. Great People (Einstein, Picasso, John Lennon, etc)
2. Civil War/revolutionary wars

[Simpleton]

Civ3's only been out for 3 weeks! I think this is much too soon. Sh!t, why not start a Civ V thread too!

[Bkeela]

A thread like this so soon is a grave sign.

Bkeela.

[Wrong_shui]

A post modern era.

[Rasbelin]

IMO the religion should finally get some visible role!

There was debate on that earlier and a poll,
but Firaxis didn't include any aspects of religion
into the game. Of course certain civs are "religeous",
but that's just nothing to be counted. I think different
religions could be implemented like any governmental
forms. It could have some kind of effect on the
cultural expansion and support certain governmental
forms. They would also replace the lack of fundamentalism
in the game. Of course we have the national spirit of
civs, but that's not the same thing. I could perhaps
construct a some kind of model on how the religion system
would work. I really have some cool and neat ideas.

[DarkCloud]

Yes, but simpleton, a thread like this three months after the games' release would be too late.

We must tell firaxis our problems now, before it is too late for a patch, expansion, sequel, etc. Or they will not be fixed.

Thank you all for your ideas-

Blake- could you please clarify the workers idea?

Rasbelin- If you want to construct a religion system- please post it here or at least post a link to it here- I will be glad to include it on the list.

[yin26]

Take it from somebody who has been down this road before: YOU ARE CRAZY! OUT OF YOUR MIND! NUTS! A FEW CARDS SHORT OF A FULL DECK! LOONY! BATTY!

But I wish you all the best. I know you asked me to summarize what made it from the previous list, and I agree it would make a great article. However, Civ3 is no longer on my computer as I find it (after several days of serious play) to be, simply put: Horridly Inferior. I suppose if it's your first Civ game, it might be entertaining. In my opinion, the Civ series under the Firaxis banner is dead. No complaints, though. The Civ games (1 and 2) gave me more gaming than most any other games I can think of.

That is my long-winded way of saying that I don't really care at this point to stay too involved here. I'll poke my head in to watch if a miracle patch comes or something. The only real hope I have is the community will save this title by doing all the things Firaxis should have done to begin with. Some of the mods are already quite impressive, and MP could prove to be fun.

In other words, I think it would be a good project for *YOU* as head of the Civ4 List to go through all those ideas to see what made it and what should still be considered for Civ4. Why re-invent the wheel? You've got 500 pages to work with, my friend.

[kittenOFchaos]

Sounds like you want civ$ (I mean 4) to be civ 3.5

No new concepts, no innovation, just solutions to gripes is what you ask for.