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**Rommel393** · October 29, 2001, 18:04

sounds wonderful.... although I hope the crash isn't a bad omen. I'm optomistic though and trust Firaxis.

**Andrew1999** · October 29, 2001, 18:07

Originally posted by Rommel393
sounds wonderful.... although I hope the crash isn't a bad omen. I'm optomistic though and trust Firaxis.

Processing big images (screenshots) takes a lot of RAM and CPU power--I wouldn't worry about it too much.

**Provost Harrison** · October 29, 2001, 18:09

A crash already? I must admit, that is a bit ominous...let us hope it is just a one off!

**Gramphos** · October 29, 2001, 18:15

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
A crash already? I must admit, that is a bit ominous...let us hope it is just a one off!

Well, we don't know the reason for it yet. He might have over acted and clicked on everything

PS
PH I can't send you a PM as your mailbox is full. ColMap is updated.

**CapTVK** · October 29, 2001, 18:16

Re: First Impressions

I don't want to rain on the Civ3 parade but some cool facts are in order.

Originally posted by MarkG
Jonah Falcon (yes he is one and the same with the Gamepen reviewer), has given us some first impressions on Civ3:

- Typical(full) installation: 700MB
Civ2MP had a mere +10Mb Footmark

- Intro video is exactly the same as the one posted on Gamespot
Intro's are intro's how many of kept watching the Civ2 intro?

- Extremely windows friendly(we have been chating on icq for over 2 hours while he was playing civ3!)
seems fair, but Civ2 had real windows
- Excellent music, amazing world setup screen
Only first impressions, the world setup screens in Civ and Civ2 were okay too

- Manual is really big, do read it before starting a game
Nice too hear, hope it's better than the flaky strategy guide

- Saved games start at 2.5MB!!!
That would explain the missing rules.txt a few weeks back and how the editor functions. Restarting/Reloading will be a pain on slower systems.

- Interface is not 100% like civ2, you will need some time to learn it

Hmmmmm...

- After more than 2 hours of playing along with icq chating and screenshot grabbing, civ3 did crash. Not a serious issue though due to very smooth autosave feature, which goes unnoticed

I'll give the benefit of the doubt.

In short, be weary of eye- and ear candy.

As for the rest....enjoy the game!

**Comrade Tribune** · October 29, 2001, 18:21

How challenging does the AI seem to be?

Are the promised 12 scenarios included?

**GoofyBoy** · October 29, 2001, 18:26

Re: Re: First Impressions

Originally posted by CapTVK
Civ2MP had a mere +10Mb Footmark

HDs are alot larger now. And I believe that it mentions the space requirements on the box.

Interface is not 100% like civ2, you will need some time to learn it
Hmmmmm...

I would hope so. Civ2 was alooooong time ago.

**Steve Clark** · October 29, 2001, 18:31

That's nice and all but not worthy of a sticky thread. Personally, I am much more interested in the First Impressions of folks like Ralf or some of the long time Civ2/Apolyton vets.

**Roman** · October 29, 2001, 18:32

Originally posted by Comrade Tribune
Are the promised 12 scenarios included?

Tell us about the scenarios, please!

**Ralf** · October 29, 2001, 18:33

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
A crash already? I must admit, that is a bit ominous...let us hope it is just a one off!

Please, give them a brake.

ALL new software ALWAYS have some few bugs. By comparison; "Europa Universalis" didnt even start up the first time I booted it. That, I didnt like.

**Comrade Tribune** · October 29, 2001, 18:38

Originally posted by Steve Clark
That's nice and all but not worthy of a sticky thread. Personally, I am much more interested in the First Impressions of folks like Ralf or some of the long time Civ2/Apolyton vets.

What happen? Did you get up with the wrong foot today?

Why should the official game pen reviewer not be able to tell us a *large* number of things we want to know?

**Ralf** · October 29, 2001, 18:39

Originally posted by Steve Clark
That's nice and all but not worthy of a sticky thread. Personally, I am much more interested in the First Impressions of folks like Ralf or some of the long time Civ2/Apolyton vets.

...And I shall certainly read your (and other apolyton-vets) impressions with great interests as well.

Unfortunately, I dont get hold of my own copy, until earliest 16 november.

So I guess you gonna beat me to it.

**The diplomat** · October 29, 2001, 18:42

Originally posted by Rommel393
sounds wonderful.... although I hope the crash isn't a bad omen. I'm optomistic though and trust Firaxis.

Considering that he was apparently playing the game, grabbing screenshots AND chatting on ICQ at the same time for 2 hours, I am not surprised that it finally crashed. That it took 2 hours before crashing is actually a good sign. I think if you tried to chat on icq, take screens and play at the same time with most games, they would crash long before 2 hours.

**Pembleton** · October 29, 2001, 18:46

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
A crash already? I must admit, that is a bit ominous...let us hope it is just a one off!

Geez. One report of a crash and people get worried.

I hear reports of crashes all the time with games and 95%+ of the games I buy never have that problem. It's that people are playing on unstable systems or situations.

Now it is possible that Civ3 could be unstable for most people, but you can't make this conclusion after *ONE* report.

*Every* game that gets released has people complaining about crashes and it's usually their system, and not the game. Wait until more people report about their experiences before drawing any conclusions.

And, as others mentioned, he was multitasking with a very unstable situation.

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