First Bug?

[Comrade Tribune]

Look closely at the hill I have marked red:
It should be outside the range of Antium (1), Veij (2), and the city in the southwest (3).

So why is that hill inside the border???

[connorkimbro]

i don't think it's necessarily a bug, just rather than have the border loop way in then out again, and because the area is small, the border just encloses it. sort of as a bonus square that is in your territory, even though it's not in a city radius. .

[yin26]

My best guess it the hill admired your culture so much that it converted.

[Falconius]

Originally posted by Comrade Tribune
So why is that hill inside the border???

In another screenshot, that city on the southwest is Rome. It's big, but it's border on the other side only stretches three spaces, so you may be right.

On the other hand, it could be as connor says, or something along those lines. Maybe the game is programmed to absorb squares that are surrounded on three sides by your culture, like that hill is. Otherwise, the mapping would start to contain a lot of goofy looking pockets outside anyone's borders.

[Fidel]

Originally posted by yin26
My best guess it the hill admired your culture so much that it converted.

you just could not resist?


actually the city ono the southwest looks big enough for some mean culture rating....

[tuckson]

Originally posted by Falconius

On the other hand, it could be as connor says, or something along those lines. Maybe the game is programmed to absorb squares that are surrounded on three sides by your culture, like that hill is. Otherwise, the mapping would start to contain a lot of goofy looking pockets outside anyone's borders.

Hah, Would be a cool, rainy afternoon strategie to try to get as many land within your borders with the least number of cities needed. Maybe even something for an Apolyton Contest?

[Fidel]

Originally posted by tuckson


Hah, Would be a cool, rainy afternoon strategie to try to get as many land within your borders with the least number of cities needed. Maybe even something for an Apolyton Contest?

there was one tolstoy's novel about such a contest in baskhiria...and it ended badly for the greedy bastards

[Faboba]

By this same token I think it's likely ( and the scrrenshots would seem to support this ) that if you can four cities with borders extenind round in a square and the middle of that square has no other city in it, your civ will be awared the land.

[Robert]

it was something I really hated about CtP2,
the borders of your cities didn't fit with each other, so in fact you got all small pieces of land, and in the middle of your cities there was land you didn't control.

it just doesn't make sence that way.
I hope this proofs that this won't be the case with civ3

[Tjoepie]

Its probably because the cities use culture rating for borbers to "grow" and so maybe squares between borders can use accumelated culture points of all adjecting cities to also become inside the border and in that way make the borders more realistic!

[Grumbold]

Yes it looks like (at least in that version of the pre-release game) some form of border normalisation is taking place. The tile would have been surrounded on 3 sides by your controlled land and has no other cultural pressure preventing it being absorbed. Like Cybershy I'll be delighted if this means tiles trapped in the centre of your territory get absorbed into your country rather than remaining isolated and unclaimed.

[Sarxis]

It was stated before somewhere ( I think one of the interviews) that borders would be 'smoothed out'- meaning, you would be given them anyway if your border had certain 'holes' in it.

[Deathwalker]

I dont think the border is set by the range of your city, it wasn't in SMAC

[campmajor!]

That would be Great!

No more adding cities to fill up the gaps (resulting in riots because of exceeding a certain number of cities....).

One more piece of evidence that civ3 will be much and much better than ctp2!

[Grumbold]

Originally posted by Deathwalker
I dont think the border is set by the range of your city, it wasn't in SMAC

Borders are determined by culture. Eventually the most impressive cities may push their borders out 5 tiles.