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  • #16
    The special units are either have more offense, or defense, or retreating ability than general units. Therefore they may fight and survive more wars, therefore more chance to spawn GL.
    Well, that is fairly obvious.
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      • #18
        It will most likely be the earliest one cause they have the most time to become a GL
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        • #19
          Jaguar Warrior? Maybe.
          But I remember at least 5 civ having the tech of bronze from beginng. That's about 1/3 of chance.

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          • #20
            1: Great Leaders may spawned when an elite unit wins combat.
            2: Great Leaders are only spawned when it was a difficult win.

            So to maximize your chance to spawn a GL, you need to cover both points 1 and 2. IMHO the retreat ability will allow your units to participate in many battles, and even if they are losing, they can retreat. If not, they win Therefore they are more likely to gain rank, to become elite.

            Secondly, attacking or defending with a 1.1.2 unit is definately considered a difficult combat. If you win with this unit, i believe you would be more likely to spawn a GL.

            So i think the Jaguar Warrior will be the earliest to spawn GLs.
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            • #21
              But remeber Jaguar is only worthy a fight at the beginning of the game, when civs are still far from each other, When your Jaguar reach other civ, they may already have spearman, or can build a army of spearman soon. Even you can win and spawn a GL, remember that GL HAVE to come back to one of your
              city to be any use at all. That could be a long journey for the Jaguar hero to move back to capital. :=)
              So it's depends on the size of map.

              Originally posted by Skanky Burns
              1: Great Leaders may spawned when an elite unit wins combat.
              2: Great Leaders are only spawned when it was a difficult win.

              So to maximize your chance to spawn a GL, you need to cover both points 1 and 2. IMHO the retreat ability will allow your units to participate in many battles, and even if they are losing, they can retreat. If not, they win Therefore they are more likely to gain rank, to become elite.

              Secondly, attacking or defending with a 1.1.2 unit is definately considered a difficult combat. If you win with this unit, i believe you would be more likely to spawn a GL.

              So i think the Jaguar Warrior will be the earliest to spawn GLs.

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              • #22
                Uh.... where in the name of god is the Impi.

                If it's a case of 'which unique unit will spawn a GL the earliest' it's gonna be the Impi or the Jaguar warrior as both afaik are based on the warrior unit and are consequently available at the begining of the game.

                The Aztec and Zulu civs will pump out a lot of these most likely ( and according to one of the only accounts of someone who's played the game that I've read the Zulus sure as hell do ) and as soon as any of them win a combat a golden age is triggered.

                And golden age means more production which means, yes that's right, MORE Jaguar/Impi warriors!

                Which means they are, of all the unique units, assuming the civilization is in a situation allowing it to engage in combat, the unique unit most likely to spawn the first great leader in the game.
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                • #23
                  If you've spawned a great leader, then chances are that the units you trained to elite status have already captured an enemy city (or more). So even if the two empires are far apart, the GL will only need to travel to a near city to be used.

                  Obviously, the map size and shape will determine if this strategy will work. Its pointless building hordes of Jaguar Warriors if you then have to wait until you have boats to go on the offensive, but generally, i believe that the JWs will have the best chance at being the first to spawn a GL.

                  Spearmen arent much of a problem if you have a horde of JWs, though. You can attack with one, bring the spearmans health down a bit before retreating, attack with another, and another, until the spearman is dead, with NO JW losses. Good ol' retreatin
                  I'm building a wagon! On some other part of the internets, obviously (but not that other site).

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                  • #24
                    Sorry, Impi is not on the list simply because we don't have its stat yet.

                    Originally posted by Faboba
                    Uh.... where in the name of god is the Impi.

                    If it's a case of 'which unique unit will spawn a GL the earliest' it's gonna be the Impi or the Jaguar warrior as both afaik are based on the warrior unit and are consequently available at the begining of the game.

                    The Aztec and Zulu civs will pump out a lot of these most likely ( and according to one of the only accounts of someone who's played the game that I've read the Zulus sure as hell do ) and as soon as any of them win a combat a golden age is triggered.

                    And golden age means more production which means, yes that's right, MORE Jaguar/Impi warriors!

                    Which means they are, of all the unique units, assuming the civilization is in a situation allowing it to engage in combat, the unique unit most likely to spawn the first great leader in the game.

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