Whcih special Unit is the best for spawn of great leader?

[sekong]

You have to consider several things:
1) Avaliablity: Some requires advanced Tech, some requires special resourses, or even small wonders.

2) CIV attributes: Military CIV having higher chance of spawn GL

3) Defensive ability, also provide higher chance of survival. Imaging that it will be important when your unit become veteran or Elite, they will be the target of other civ.

4) Retreat ability. Faster unit can retreat from combat.

5) Offensive ability: the unit have to fight enough combats to be promoted to Elite.

[Rege]

Does it take a UU to spawn a Great Leader? Why should the UU be better to get a GL?

[SteveJH]

Originally posted by Rege
Does it take a UU to spawn a Great Leader? Why should the UU be better to get a GL?

As far as I know, the unit makes no difference.

[Rege]

So why's the poll:

-Which UU will spawn a Gl first?-

[sekong]

Yes, not only UU can do it. But UU provide a higher chance of spawn it than general units.
When we comparing UU, one thing we should consider is its ability to spawn great leader(GL), because GL is obviously the most important feature in combat, and other aspect of CIV3, like building wonders, and building armies.

[TechWins]

But UU provide a higher chance of spawn it than general units.

Sorry but you are incorrect on this one. The UU is the only unit that can spawn you a GA. I think this is what you are thinking of. A UU will not be more superior in earning a higher status than a regular unit.

So why's the poll

This person is just simply wrong, that's all.

[sekong]

At the beginning, I want to vote on units, but then I feel that special benefit of UU make it a generally better choice for spawning. Say, if you want to vote for spearman, then obviously Greek hoplite is better than normal spearmen..

Originally posted by Rege
So why's the poll:

-Which UU will spawn a Gl first?-

[Rege]

Are U sure about that, cos I really like the German ( Militaristic and Scientific) but if that is true, only later in the game I'll get more chances to spawn a GL ( with the panzer) which would be a GREAT disadvantge to the Germans...

[sekong]

As a military CIV, German very likely will get GL before Panzer. But with general units, like swordman, or knight.

Originally posted by Rege
Are U sure about that, cos I really like the German ( Militaristic and Scientific) but if that is true, only later in the game I'll get more chances to spawn a GL ( with the panzer) which would be a GREAT disadvantge to the Germans...

[Pembleton]

I think it would be a unit with the following attributes:

1) Ability to retreat. Units with more movement get to do this. This way you can survive more battles and thus continue to increase its level.
2) Militaristic Civ.

[TechWins]

A UU DOESN'T HAVE ANY SPECIAL ADVANTAGES IN BECOMING A GL OVER A REGULAR UNIT!!!

[sekong]

Originally posted by Pembleton
I think it would be a unit with the following attributes:

1) Ability to retreat. Units with more movement get to do this. This way you can survive more battles and thus continue to increase its level.
2) Militaristic Civ.

Good point of retreat. I was thinking:
3) Good defense.
4) Good offense. Therefore I chose Rome Legion.
ALso i think Legion is best for forming an army.

[Pembleton]

Originally posted by sekong
ALso i think Legion is best for forming an army.

I'm still rather unclear about armies, but I thought a GL was a prerequisite to building armies until you research Nationalism. The small wonder that also allows them (Miltary Academy?) also requires a GL first.

[sekong]

I disagree.
As Pembleton and me pointed out:
The special units are either have more offense, or defense, or retreating ability than general units. Therefore they may fight and survive more wars, therefore more chance to spawn GL.

Originally posted by TechWins
A UU DOESN'T HAVE ANY SPECIAL ADVANTAGES IN BECOMING A GL OVER A REGULAR UNIT!!!

[sekong]

Each time elite unit win a combat, there is a chance for spawn of GL.
After GL, you can build Hero Epic (small wonder) and
use GL to form an army.
After you army win the 1st battle, you can build War Academy (Small wonder) which allow Army building without GL.

Originally posted by Pembleton


I'm still rather unclear about armies, but I thought a GL was a prerequisite to building armies until you research Nationalism. The small wonder that also allows them (Miltary Academy?) also requires a GL first.