Fortresses: A Quote for Jeffrey Morris of Firaxis!

[Jason Beaudoin]

Originally posted by Jeffrey Morris of Firaxis:
In this game you need to defend your TERRITORY, not just your cities, or you will be swiftly punished. I find myself building hillside fortresses more in this game than Civ2/SMAC et al. One advanage of this terrain improvement is the zone of control it gives units normally without one (read: most ancient and middle ages units). But it's their ability to protect vital trade roads, colonies, and goods that makes them invaluable.

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This is so cool! It's like building castle fortresses in order to protect your land... giving you a zone of control over an area is so important for defence!

This game is going to be so incredible! There is so many possible strategies, that it's mind boggling!

[Hugh Janus]

We can build the Maginot line

[Executor]

What about if you're under a democracy? Does that 3 space rule still apply or else you get discontent?

[Jason Beaudoin]

Executor... I think you need to re-read my thread.

[KrazyHorse]

What thread? The quote says nothing about discontent.

EDIT: I found the thread. Could you point to a specific quote, please? It's 5 pages long.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Executor
What about if you're under a democracy? Does that 3 space rule still apply or else you get discontent?

What 3 space rule?

[Asesino_Virtual]

The fortresses are now much more useful than in previous editions. Now they are strategic sites that must be defender until the END!





Yep.

[Haphazard]

Originally posted by Urban Ranger


What 3 space rule?

Units create unhappiness in Democracy or Republic unless they are in cities, or fortresses within 3 spaces of a city.

[Jason Beaudoin]

I'm sure that has been changed to be within a civilization's borders.

[Crouchback]

Originally posted by Jason Beaudoin
I'm sure that has been changed to be within a civilization's borders.

Nice summary, and I hope you're right for the sake of my precious roads.

David

[Inverse Icarus]

hrm. in a civs borders you say.

well if you are a democracy, changes are you got tons of moneyt to throw around on culture, and to spend supporting a military. and if you have huge cultural borders, you could, in theory, enroach on an enemy and bombard them with cannons/catapults/battleships from within your own borders.



and i hope your not able to bombard from INSIDE a city.

[Stuie]

Originally posted by UberKruX
you could, in theory, enroach on an enemy and bombard them with cannons/catapults/battleships from within your own borders.

And the problem would be..........? Is it the fact that I can now engage in combat with my democratic forces while my citizens remain content because said forces are within my borders? That seems reasonable to me. Americans only get upset when the infantry goes marching in. As long as we engage from a distance (and thus incur no casualties), people seem relatively content.

and i hope your not able to bombard from INSIDE a city.

Because...........?

Sorry, Jingo, but I'm not seeing your point. If located in a city, why would I be unable to train my cannon/artillery/battleship guns on an enemy outside of the city?

[cort]

by the way, hope bombarding will be more effective this time.. i never find the heavy artillary stuff in SMAC useful..

heard that it will again not be possible to kill an opponent just by bombarding.. ;(

[Sarxis]

Fortresses

Very nice

I don't think artillery bombardment should allow for unit destruction- not historical, and too unbalancing in the game. I for one wouldn't build any other ground troops, since I can take out everything from afar with 'ultimate artillery'.

But the fortresses- now that is very kewl. Everytime I play CivII or SMAC I want to build forts and bunkers, but they were never very effective. Plus there was always that possiblity of the enemy capturing them and using it to his advantage. Even though enemy capture may still be possible, the fortress bonuses will be too good to pass them up.

[Akron]

Yeah, in SMAC building artillery was useless, except for defending against ships, IIRC.