A late complain

[Jason Beaudoin]

Ya... and maybe we should have called the CIVs: California, Texas, New York, Michigan, Nevada, etc.

[CygnusZ]

I agree, it would have been nice if each civilization had a different name for its "Manhattan Project" and "Pyramids".

After all, wouldn't it be neat if you were other cultures to...

"Pyramids" could be "Kremlin" (Russian)
"Manhattan Project" could be "Delhi Project" (Indian)
"Great Cathedreal" could be "Dome of the Rock" (Arabic)

Would be neat, but given that the game was not given such depth it would be better for it to be consistantly ethno-centric with respect to European/American culture rather than all over the place attempting to borrow aspects from all sorts of different cultures.

It'd be on my wish list for a Patch of CivIII (this could be easily accomplished) or for Civ IV (just have to wait till 2007)

[LordGrey ofLeva]

So much for the view of the World by the average American.
BTW, I got a taste of the Ignorance of american people after the Attack on the 11. October. Hard to belive if you don't see it with your own eyes....

I also would like a more world open Civ 3. If you take a look on History, all culture of america was initially imported from Europe......

[Sabre2th]

BTW, I got a taste of the Ignorance of american people after the Attack on the 11. October. Hard to belive if you don't see it with your own eyes....

WTF does that mean? Americans are ignorant because of a terrorist attack?

I'm not saying we are necessarily justified in what we're doing in the middle east, but I am tired of the f*cking double standard surrounding the U.S. Any time anything happens, the U.S. is expected to just sit and take it. No more of that. If we are attacked, we will retaliate.

I am sick and tired of the prejudice around the U.S. Yes, SOME Americans are ignorant and stupid, but every country has that. People say bad things about the U.S., but every country has its problems. Just because the U.S. is the only remaining superpower doesn't mean that it's corrupt or deserves what much of the world is throwing at it. We are not completely innocent, no, but we are not the only ones to blame.

[Dida]

Originally posted by LordGrey ofLeva
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BTW, I got a taste of the Ignorance of american people after the Attack on the 11. October. Hard to belive if you don't see it with your own eyes....

U.S. was attacked on the 11th of Sept. you dumm ass.

[saracen31]

You're talking about the most powerful country in Earth's history. Of course it will be slanted that way. If Rome still ruled the world, it would be a Rome-centric game. Who cares?

[The Andy-Man]

no way is USA the most powerful nation in history, 18the British Empire from 1815-1880 was.


shame they changed Bach's. I like his music, and would have looked forward to a prelude beinmg played when you built it. oh well.

i also agree about the wall street thing, i mean, the first (truely) economic center of the world was 19th Centry london (hence GMT being there etc)

[Lorizael]

Originally posted by LordGrey ofLeva
So much for the view of the World by the average American.
BTW, I got a taste of the Ignorance of american people after the Attack on the 11. October. Hard to belive if you don't see it with your own eyes....

I also would like a more world open Civ 3. If you take a look on History, all culture of america was initially imported from Europe......

A joke or not this actually quite offensive. You are making a stereotype based on a select few. No one says, OH NO THE COMMIES anymore. How is your stereotype any better than a game made in the United States using easily recognizable (at least to Americans) symbols? And somebody already mentioned that the attack happened on SEPTEMBER 11, so I won't say it again.

[tuckson]

Originally posted by Sabre2th

Any time anything happens, the U.S. is expected to just sit and take it. No more of that. If we are attacked, we will retaliate.

Nah... Depends on the motive. Revenge is not a valid motive. Extinction of terroristic threat is.

Originally posted by Sabre2th
I am sick and tired of the prejudice around the U.S. Yes, SOME Americans are ignorant and stupid, but every country has that. People say bad things about the U.S., but every country has its problems. Just because the U.S. is the only remaining superpower doesn't mean that it's corrupt or deserves what much of the world is throwing at it. We are not completely innocent, no, but we are not the only ones to blame.

The problem usually is that the US often underestimates anything outside their borders. Besides that, Most Americans are pretty sure The US of A are the best country in the World. Of course other countries have sort a like ideas, only they usually don't try to be the world's police officer. America seems to think the World NEEDS America. Well... it can be used, but the world can survive without the USA I guess.

It's not we (non-americans) don't like the USA. Not at all, usually they have our sympathy. But if we look at the circus you make of the democratic principle of election, how can you expect to be taken seriously?

[saracen31]

no way is USA the most powerful nation in history, 18the British Empire from 1815-1880 was.

Because the US hasn't chosen to expand like rabbits as the British did does not make them less powerful. With the advent of media coverage 24 hours a day, the American influence is much more pervasive around the world than Britain's ever was.

[CygnusZ]

Your going to get a lot of crap for posting that.


But even a faithful Americuhn like me must admit that it is extremely funny.

I agree, the average American has had the reaction to the situation which is least productive. Furthermore, they've displayed a complete inability to understand the situation that percipates in the Middle East. However, the USA just can't take this sitting down either. It's a two sided coin. Once mother's start getting a lot of MIA reports (inevitable if Ground Troops are sent due to the trouble with fighting somebody on foriegn ground) the country will probably see-saw a bit.

[GodSpawn]

Hey, like chill out, guys!

[saracen31]

These American threads always stir everyone up. It's entertainment value...

[Grumbold]

Please lets not have another pro/anti US fight. It never gets won by anybody.

Object naming is exactly the sort of thing that country specific localisation can handle, if they think it is worth the effort. Americans, English (and people from virtually every other country) could have trouble discussing Monopoly because virtually every square on the board has a different name in the separate editions. People probably know where Mayfair is, but not something like Piccadilly unless they've played the UK version.

Will they bother for Civ? Since the deadline between US and UK release now seems to have shrunk to a mere 2 weeks it seems unlikely unless a lot of it was prepared in advance. It'll give us Yuropeens something to moan about if everything else about Civ3 is great

[saracen31]

Agreed. Object naming is the sort of nice little touch that everyone appreciates. Little things like that go a long way with gamers. If it's not in the game, hopefully it will come out in a mod later...