Now that we know there are 16 civs and 256 times 256 maps...

[Roman]

... do we know whether the other "limits" have also been increased?

For example, I remember running out of the city limit in civ2 many a time and the problem if the 255 limit on cities, as well as the limits on units, etc. stayed, it would be difficult to enjoy the games I long for with 16 civs on 256 times 256 maps.

[BeBMan]

I really hope they changed the other limits (max. cities and max. units on the map, max. possible slots for techs/units) also. Given the RAM/CPU performance of modern computers, this should be no problem

[Roman]

OT - BeBro, where in Germany do you live? I currently reside in Germany (in Schwaebisch Gmuend, a small city of about 65 000) about 50km SE of Stuttgart.

[FrostyBoy]

what is that 256 measured in?

[BeBMan]

Roman, I live in Berlin - my brother lives in Stuttgart

SnOOpy, I think it means a map can have 256x256 squares (or more via the editor?). That would be moe than 65000 squares - for comparison, normal civ2 maps could have only 10000 squares max.

[FrostyBoy]

oh of course! LOL

You don't want to know what I was thinking it was - it was so stupid I had to ask, but I just plainly forgot about the diamond squares. diamond squares!? I mean tiles.

Now there's a question for Dan, what are the dimensions of the tiles?

[orange]

So it's confirmed that you can definitely play a game with 16 total civs? As long as the map is big enough (I think 180x180)

Earlier speculations put the number at 8.

[FrostyBoy]

yeah its confirmed by Dan, and he also said you can play 16 on a small map if you wanted to

[orange]

thank God. Maybe this game won't be such a flop after all

[PGM]

Originally posted by orange
thank God. Maybe this game won't be such a flop after all

Right, without this it would really stink...

[Vlad Antlerkov]

Now, we know that we can add custom civs. Perhaps we could have more than 16 civs in a game, then...?

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Originally posted by Vlad Antlerkov
Now, we know that we can add custom civs. Perhaps we could have more than 16 civs in a game, then...?

noone mentioned that, so I wouldn't think it is possible, but 16 is great already.

On a small map with 16 civs most of them get killed of in BC and 16 civs will be enough to fill quite a big map, and give scenario makers much more flexibility comparing to 8 civs. 32 limit does not improve gameplay as much as a move from 8 to 16, there will surely be many occurences when people will want more, but to get 16 from the initial fear that there will be only 8 as before, is great.

[Roman]

How about we ask about the city and other limits in the next set of "Ask the Civ Team"?

[Fiera]

Now that 16 civs in a game, I think it's fair we remind that some "conservative" Civ players were arguing that the game would be too slow and only super-computers would be able to handle more than 8 civs...

[Sava]

I think the idea that 16 civs will only run on supercomputers is absurd. We're not talking about a game that will require lots of power, its not going to be a 3D 10 billion polygon per second game. Whoever suggested that is probably a newbie.

Anything above the minimum system requirements will be fine, that's why they're called "Minimum System Requirements"!