WLTKD in Civ2 is cheesy and cheap

[Earthling7]

Originally posted by Triped
Yes, but World Health Org. brings on visions of inneficient beauracracy and red tape.

Your point being?

Democracy, the mother of all governments in Civ is little but beaurocracy and red-tape.

[Provost Harrison]

Originally posted by PGM
regarding Longevity wonder

Wow, this would be a must-have in civ2 but let's see what happens in civ3. And the fact that it is not a Small Wonder gives its owner a biiiiig boost.

Well it sounds the equivalent of the cloning vats in SMAC which resulted in a pop boom at every base in your empire, although it was possible to pop boom in SMAC through Golden Ages (equivalent of WLTKD)

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Ribannah
Longevity is a ridiculous name for a wonder.

You scored a hit!

Two other things:

Will Wltkd still be worthwhile at all?
Isn´t 'Longevity' TOO strong, especially as a major wonder? (Only one can have it.) And why major? Everybody could have penicillin and such. Shouldn´t it be a minor wonder?

[JosefGiven]

Agreed, comrade.

Although I feel most strongly about that name.

Longevity, I ask you. CtP overtones abound.

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by JosefGiven
Longevity, I ask you. CtP overtones abound.

I believe Longevity was first used in SMAC, not CTP.

[Ribannah]

Originally posted by Comrade Tribune
Two other things:

Will Wltkd still be worthwhile at all?
Isn´t 'Longevity' TOO strong, especially as a major wonder? (Only one can have it.) And why major? Everybody could have penicillin and such. Shouldn´t it be a minor wonder?

It will be worth while if it doesn't come too late in the game. Early 20th century should be OK. The WHO as a major wonder would allow other tribes to boom as well, provided they join up - eg by paying cultural points to the tribe that built the wonder. So it needn't be TOO powerful either.

[Roland Ehnström]

How do you assume that it will be "too strong"? We don't know yet for how long this boom lasts! If it lasts only one turn, the wonder is VERY weak. If it lasts forever, however, it is VERY strong (then I would of course agree that it is "too strong"). My guess is that it will last for, say, 3-5 turns, which should make the wonder perfectly balanced IMO.
-- Roland

[jsw363]

Perhaps its a wonder that has a smaller effect over an extended period of time. I like the idea of the WHO wonder. Longevity is a BAD name for a wonder.

[Comrade Tribune]

Originally posted by Roland Ehnström
How do you assume that it will be "too strong"? We don't know yet for how long this boom lasts! If it lasts only one turn, the wonder is VERY weak. If it lasts forever, however, it is VERY strong (then I would of course agree that it is "too strong"). My guess is that it will last for, say, 3-5 turns, which should make the wonder perfectly balanced IMO.
-- Roland

Don´t forget the wonder´s name is 'longevity'. From that I indeed do assume it will last longer than a few years.

[JonahFalcon]

WHO?

Originally posted by Triped
Yes, but World Health Org. brings on visions of inneficient beauracracy and red tape.

WHO?

Hahahahaha. Get it? WHO? HAHAHAHAHA.

-ALF mode ON-

I kill me!

-ALF mode OFF-

[hetairoi22]

Funny! --sorta...

WHO is a good name!

FIRAXIS get a hold of your self! Longevity...

I'm sure FIRAXIS will change the name...it's just text remember...n' you could probably do it youself in 2 minutes...

[JonahFalcon]

Alternatives

How about Cure For Cancer.

Hmmm. Already taken by Civilization II.

OK! How about The Human Genome Project?

Grrrrrr. That's already in Alpha Centauri.



I got it.

Human Cloning or Organ Cloning. Ethically questionable, though.

Magic Fairy Dust?

The best one would have been the Human Genome Project, which is currently underway (mapping human DNA), but SMAC already has it.

Grand Unified Health Vaccine? Too wordy, and a little goofy sounding.

Jonah Falcon's Secret Health Sauce! THERE'S the wonder. Not that I'm not ALREADY a Wonder of the World...