Please do NOT pirate Civ3!

[Triped]

Tim Sweeney never officially abandoned ZZT, but with Unreal Tournament doing so well, nobody cares about an ASCII game that's a decade old. (besides me )

*realizes that nobody cares about ZZT *

[Rasbelin]

Originally posted by Jason Beaudoin

Brian Reynolds once said that 10% of the games out there make 90% of the money... well, I'm here to tell you Brian, that's because 90% of the games out there are good for the garbage.

Debate that!

I'll continue on that...
How many excellent games has been released
since 1991? How many bad ones? How many utterly bad ones?

Every year tens and hundreds of games are published,
but how many (and perhaps whose) has survived and are still
played?

As far as I consider, there's only two "real" survivors.
Civ and Civ II! And all the other survivors are all the other games
made by Sid and/or Firaxis.

[Triped]

You are one narrow-minded Civ player

Ever heard of Half-Life, Starcraft, or Myst?

There's more out there...

[Asesino_Virtual]

I must admit that ive bought few original games, but those which i have bought, were great ones. If this help, i pretend to buy an original copy. I hope to be in Cancun for when the game is available, so i could get it at a cheaper price than in my country.

PD: hope to be in Cancun if the plane isnt hijacked or suffers an awful accident, damn, planes are scary.

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by Triped
Tim Sweeney never officially abandoned ZZT, but with Unreal Tournament doing so well, nobody cares about an ASCII game that's a decade old. (besides me )

*realizes that nobody cares about ZZT *

Long Live ZZT!!!

*runs off to try cracking the Bank of ZZT*

[gerkenbr]

Originally posted by Executor
How many of the people here actually bought their copy of Windows or Office? Just wondering.

I bought: MS EXCEL 4, Windows 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98.

Word 6, Excel 5, Office 95, Office 2000. (among others)

Piracy = STEAL, you can build as many excuses as you will.

[Wiglaf]

even as a hardened debator I find it difficult to dispute you point, gerkenbr. Be fearful, however, as within the next four days I plan to start a thread targeting the legality of washing clothes, commiting armed robbery, battery, assault, and sharpening pencils. We'll see who gets the last laugh after I'm through quoting common sense, the Constitution, the Supreme Court of America, local California laws, and area traffic cops. All your experiance in the field will be put to the test as you sweat over whether or not armed robbery is 'wrong' or 'right' pending circumstances. As a trick question, I'll ask whether or not 'hitting' someone is a mental or spiritual action. Wait and see!

Honestly I think this thread does more harm than good. While you claim a good arguement can come up, a number of other issues can also be discussed from a broad philosophical standpoint for hours, days, and weeks on end for no practical purpose.

Pirating is wrong, end of story. A chit chat only makes it more desireable to the undecided.

[yin26]

Wiglaf: We all look forward to your stunning contributions.

[gerkenbr]

Wiglaf,

sorry for my poor english skills (I speak Portuguese at home ), but I didn't understand your reply. I couldn't get if you are angry, sarcastic, ironic, or are simply insulting me.

But I happen to agree with your conclusion. This is an endless discussion, almost a philosophic one, and I'm sure won't change the mind of the pirates among us.

[yin26]

...a number of other issues can also be discussed from a broad philosophical standpoint for hours, days, and weeks on end for no practical purpose

Um, duh?

By the way, when a number of people on this forum make it a point to locate and report these sites to Firaxis and Infogrames, you can bet there will be a 'practical purpose' (as if that is the Golden Rule of a forum or something for God's sake...).

But if Firaxis and Infogrames show no interest in scaring off those sites, then I'll promptly step out of the way and let them make a clear statement: "Pirate Civ 3! We won't do anything about it."

...starting to see a 'point' yet?

[Sarxis]

Re: Please do NOT pirate Civ3!

[QUOTE] Originally posted by yin26
As many of you might know, I have been both one of Civ3's greatest supporters and now one of its greatest doubters. However, I want to go on record as saying one thing:

DO NOT PIRATE CIV3!

Darn! There goes my Holloween money!

[yin26]

Weeel, if it's Halloween money on the line...

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by gerkenbr
I bought: MS EXCEL 4, Windows 3.11, Windows 95, Windows 98.

Word 6, Excel 5, Office 95, Office 2000. (among others)

Piracy = STEAL, you can build as many excuses as you will.

Unless you steal from M$, then you are a hero just like Robin Hood

[tuckson]

Originally posted by Rasbelin


But my point is that software that isn't on sale anymore and
has at least a certain age (aka abandonware), could be
automatically considered as freeware.

Of course this would require changes into the laws, but
you can always bring up new ideas. This is one of those.
Be creative!

Well... I can agree with that. I hate still having to pay momey when I would like to have the commander Keen series. However since laws still haven't changed yet, there's no justification for pirating, no matter what nice excuses some folks try to have.

[tuckson]

Originally posted by Rasbelin

As far as I consider, there's only two "real" survivors.
Civ and Civ II! And all the other survivors are all the other games
made by Sid and/or Firaxis.

Hmmmm.... Trying to get a free copy, ehhhh...?