Civ should be real-time

[Shiva]

Originally posted by Felch X
Talk about sheep. The consensus seems to be, "I don't like RTS because that's not how it ever was."

Well, if you want to play Civ1 play it. Don't kirk out on people who think differently.

Maybe instead of whining that a great game series wont make a change that would go away from its roots you guys ought to find some RTS thats close and have them add what you want. You should be able to find alot of them since most suck anyways.

[Shadowstrike]

IMHO, Firaxis has deviated away from what most civvers would have prefered Civ3 to be (that is, a game encompassing religion, provinces, rise and fall of empires, etc.) and added in features to appease the general crowd (AOE-esque unique units, etc.) That has already been regarded as a very bad move by some people. Turning Civ3 into a RTS will simply turn off the traditional crowd, destroying all brand image. Lets see how well Starcraft does as a TBS. NOt very well probably. See why Blizzard doesn't do something like that.

[isaac brock]

Wow, civ in realtime would be great. Then when they're done they can release it as a first person shooter! Gee, these forums sure are full of good ideas!

[Gramphos]

Originally posted by isaac brock
Wow, civ in realtime would be great. Then when they're done they can release it as a first person shooter! Gee, these forums sure are full of good ideas!

I think you miss the -smilie to show your sarcasm in that post. I almost stopped read after your first sentence, and almost missed the second one. I was about to think that you mean what you said about civ in realtime. That could easily have been avoided with a .
Civ as a first person shooter.

[Skanky Burns]

Originally posted by Gramphos
Civ as a first person shooter.

Oh no!! Here comes a deadly settler unit!!
Ahhrrggg... hes building a road on me!!

[shade]

Oh no!! Here comes a deadly settler unit!!
Ahhrrggg... hes building a road on me!!

Would an engineer the be armed with a Bulldozer??


Shade

[Internationalist]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
Sure, you could make a real-time civ-based game. It might even be enjoyable. Dont ruin a proven balanced game-play style with an idea that may or may not work... Dont kill Civ off just like they did with XCom.

Btw, I'm still waiting for the time they'll come to their sences and release it again as a TBS.(What can I say, I'm a an optimistic person )

There are so many rts games.Go play one of them and leave the King of games alone!

[Lemmy]

Originally posted by Internationalist


Btw, I'm still waiting for the time they'll come to their sences and release it again as a TBS.(What can I say, I'm a an optimistic person )

There are so many rts games.Go play one of them and leave the King of games alone!

they did come to their senses, http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters...913875,00.html , but then they left their senses again

[Father Beast]

I can't believe this thread is still alive. Obviously, CIV3 is not going to be RTS, so go play an RTS if you want and don't try to destroy all the other genres.

I'm glad somebody mentioned Xcom. the main map was actually real time, but the combat, which is generally agreed to be the most intense ever, was turn based. Sort of the opposite of the upcoming moo3, which will be TBS main map and rts combat.

I wonder why nobody ever copied the XCOM combat model?

[Office_Fox]

Though I have to log-off in a second and hove not read the thread, I have an inkling of what the future of civ type games might be.


The game is real time, but with infinite pauses to allow you to command your troops or industry. Time is still turn based-ish, but each turn is a 'tick' of about a month or less. Thus, each field would have a seasonal system whereby the food increases during summer, and desreases during winter.

This would let you rapidly move through the 'boring years' of the firts few cities while maintaining control over scouts, etc.

Then, when a WWII scale conflict arises, you can just pause every 'tick' to command your forces in detail.

[The Rusty Gamer]

Maximum time per turn?

What about turn-based but with the option of a maximum time length which you can set. Look at a game like Deadlock. You can set the total maximum time per turn (in seconds) and also the time left to finish your turn if all the other players have finished already (for simultaneous turn-based).
Simulteanous turn-based is also a good option - it was implemented in CivNet, so why not Civ3?

[Oligarf]

Other Civ

Should Firaxis think about an other game like Civilization but in Real-Time. I understand that some people like the idea, but don't want lose the TBS. I didn't want to make CIV RTS only! Others wanted that apperently. I am sure Sid can think of a nice name for a RTS Civilization.

Making such a game seems more useful to me than delaying an almost useless Multiplayer option for Civ III and working on something called SimGolf. That's Will Wright's job.

Sid did good things with Railroad Tycoon, Civilization I and Colonization (where is Colonization II, there is surely a market for that game, all you economist around here). A RTS CIV would add nicely to that list.


Any comments?

Oligarf

[Trifna]

Realism... again ;-)

When deciders are asking themselves how to move a troop, they don't have 5 minutes tio think. They have lotta time, more than what you're taking in-game probably.

Anf for fun factor, I like the purism of a turn-based game also (call it fun factor). It involves a great deal of intelligence and thinking.

[Oligarf]

Re: Realism... again ;-)

Originally posted by Trifna
When deciders are asking themselves how to move a troop, they don't have 5 minutes tio think. They have lotta time, more than what you're taking in-game probably.

Anf for fun factor, I like the purism of a turn-based game also (call it fun factor). It involves a great deal of intelligence and thinking.

Are you taking that much time in TBS? BE REAL!
I take quick decisions all the time in CIV II.
So that is not the trouble.

Oligarf

[Fresno]

The bloodthirsty majority here doesn't appear very 'CIVILIZED' to me...

I don't see why a RTS OPTION would harm the game.