Hey Firaxis! SDI doesn't work!

[Alexander's Horse]

So why is it foolproof in civ II?

I guess it was meant to be a reward for the infamous "relatively peaceful builder's". Who wants some loser to upset the chess board right at the end of the game right?

But nothing is foolproof and at the very least SDI should be attackable, especially given the strong possibility that SDI will NEVER WORK!

[Ming]

Actually AH... SDI isn't fool proof in CivII. You can still use a spy to deliver a nuke to the city
And plus, how many other things in civ AREN'T realistic

[Provost Harrison]

I agree with Ming. The purpose of the game is, yes, to be a simulation, but not an absolutely replication of history.

Besides, I liked the satellite system in SMAC

[Kropotkin]

true, so True. It's not a perfect simulation but what's really the effort of putting in a lets for arguments sake say 10% that a nuke gets thru the defences?

There was quite a few ideas about how one could 'fool' thr SDI system back in the day. One that I can remember was to overload the system with a huge number of fake missiles so that a real one could get thru and nuke the enemy to the stoneage or worse.

Besides, the game is more fun if unpredictable things happens now and then.

[Solver]

Ming starts to make the same grammatical mistakes I do.

[easy]

Yes, add earthquake and tornado to the game.
For earthquake, your city population will decrease, units around the area will be hurt, even died, some city improvements may also be destoryed.

Originally posted by Kropotkin
Besides, the game is more fun if unpredictable things happens now and then.

[Grumbold]

For the ultimate in unexpected disasters, set your PC to automatically shutdown at a set time regardless of whether it is in use, then take all watches and clocks out of the room and disable autosave. Can you win before a sudden massive meteor strike heralds the end of the world?

[Kropotkin]

Grumbold: Just disabling the autosave will have that effect, windows XX will do the rest of it for us automatically

btw, easy. Why the habit of posting an answer and then quote? Seems highly irregular...

[Pagan]

Change that to doesn't work yet!

Star Wars does not work yet. However, the scientists are making progress. There was another successful anti-missile test only a month ago in the Pacific.

The idea of a missile defense shield is not to protect from all types of nuclear attack, only from ICBMs and perhaps theatre (tactical) weapons.

You may also note that the Patriot defense system had limited success against SCUD missiles (tactical) in the Golf War.

If President Bush gets his way, a missile defense shield may become a reality. I, for one, hope that Bush does get his way.

[Inverse Icarus]

hey you propaganda influenced fuc|(nut, the SDI hit a target on it's fourth try.

[Pagan]

Not so fast UberKruX

That’s right. They had one success earlier, so that’s two out of four. Not bad for technology that’s in its infancy.

Did you ever notice that people like UberKruX (who keep claiming things can’t be done) are always wrong? Examples: flight, landing on the moon, submarines, etc.

I have an open mind. That doesn’t make me a propaganda influenced fuc|(nut.

[Inverse Icarus]

well, as a canadian i will pass off ure idiocy as canadianess.

i am DEFENDING the SDI system, they said it didnt work and i say it HIT A TARGET.

Did you ever notice that people like UberKruX (who keep claiming things can’t be done) are always wrong?

show me where i said it couldnt be done.

let me break it down canada boy.

hey you: Greeting.
propaganda influenced fuc|(nut: (insult to non believers)
, the SDI hit a target on it's fourth try. (proof it worked)

well i obviously am slamming that poor missle defence system.

woe is me.

[down th' pub]

Pagan, if I read the newspaper correctly the target vehicle was carrying a GPS transponder to allow the kill vehicle to locate it. 2 out of 4 isn't a great result if you're playing with loaded dice.

[tniem]

Two out of four in a controlled testing environment. I feel so safe.

The sure numbers of an SDI do not work. A missile hitting a missile will only work so many times. Even if Bush does deploy such a system, it will only shield the country from like 20 nukes.

So then, China builds a few more just to make sure they can still hit us at any time. And rogue states carry a nuke in a suitcase.

So I applaud Bush's solution to this massive problem of nuke attacks that have been happening so often here in the U.S. Wait, my country is the only nation on Earth to ever use a nuclear weapon, then we need a shield!

[kolpo]

Against every offense is there a defense against every defense is there an offense. This is endless the only result are stronger weapons that use more tax payer money.

What for example if you make for every true nuclear rocket 200000 false rocket who all(and the nuclear) have a very cold engine that makes it hard to track them, Who fly at complet different attitudes and speeds then the system is designed for, whole all have the same amount of plutonium(just like the nuclear) in them so they give the same radiation. There is off course a solution for this: a new better ABM defence that uses more tax payer money, where they will design new misiles against who use even more tax payer money where they will design a new ABM against that...

The Russias have already designed nuclear rockets to avoid ABM and that are most likely capable of infiltrating the USA ABM system and off course predicts "the balance of power" that China will also try to design rockets that can inflitrate that sytem and that they will also try to build an ABM system where the USA will have to devolop new rockets againsts that cost tax payer money. The only long term result is: more tax payer money to the military industry.