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    How many animated leaders should be with each civilization in CivIII?
    40
    1 is good enough for me, get the game out soon!
    30.00%
    12
    2 at least, come on! Male and female, please!
    47.50%
    19
    Lots! Like the Victoria? Elizabeth I dilemma! Bring on Henry VIII too!
    17.50%
    7
    None!!! I don't like animation! It confuses me!
    5.00%
    2
    I'm confused! Put me under "other."
    0.00%
    0
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  • #2
    Well, I voted for a couple (male/female) for every Civ, but I know it's not an easy task finding two for every Civ included.

    I realize that the 16 standard leaders are already defined, as I know the new standard reply from Firaxis will be "we are making a good editor, so many fan mod makers can do it by themselves"...

    Well, give us the game coding as Open Source and I bet someone out there can also do any game enhancement Firaxis can't/won't do
    "We are reducing all the complexity of billions of people over 6000 years into a Civ box. Let me say: That's not only a PkZip effort....it's a real 'picture to Jpeg heavy loss in translation' kind of thing."
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    • #3
      1. get it out!
      admiral, welcome back from ferragosto

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      • #4
        Originally posted by LaRusso
        admiral, welcome back from ferragosto
        Thanks sir! (on a side note, I should note that Ferragosto in Italy is only the day of august, 15th - one of our national holidays )

        Well, mine is more a "half return", because I'm waiting official site publishing before questioned more about game supposed good/bad points. I lurked some of the posts appeared during my vacation and I noted a very angry wind against the group of "not really happy" people out here. Better wait best times...
        "We are reducing all the complexity of billions of people over 6000 years into a Civ box. Let me say: That's not only a PkZip effort....it's a real 'picture to Jpeg heavy loss in translation' kind of thing."
        - Admiral Naismith

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        • #5
          I voted for one because I don't really care too much about the animations of leaders. If 2 leaders is possible without slowing down the game creation process than great but if not 1 is good enough. Since it will slow down the process I guess it's 1 for me.
          However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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          • #6
            I think there should be more than two - in Civ2 most of the leaders seem to be from ancient/medieval times. For each civ there should be more modern leaders (like Winston Churchill or Thatcher, for example).

            Just my two penneth.

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            • #7
              If you have both a male and female animation then you run the risk of many online relationships beginning between deluded teenagers who mistakenly believe that if somebody uses a female animation in a MP game then they must be a female. It happens in EverQuest, it could happen in Civ III...
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              • #8
                Originally posted by red_jon
                I think there should be more than two - in Civ2 most of the leaders seem to be from ancient/medieval times. For each civ there should be more modern leaders (like Winston Churchill or Thatcher, for example).
                If Thatcher was in, I would end up making it my crusade to invade the English and make sure she is killed
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                • #9
                  Scenario:

                  Maggie's union-busting tactics alienate the Northlands. Disgruntled miners rebel! The sout has the tech edge, but you can't beat the north for production.
                  12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                  Stadtluft Macht Frei
                  Killing it is the new killing it
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by technophile
                    If you have both a male and female animation then you run the risk of many online relationships beginning between deluded teenagers who mistakenly believe that if somebody uses a female animation in a MP game then they must be a female.
                    Well, don't try to start a relationship with me, don't bother if I'll chose a male or female leader: I'm already happy married and father of two
                    "We are reducing all the complexity of billions of people over 6000 years into a Civ box. Let me say: That's not only a PkZip effort....it's a real 'picture to Jpeg heavy loss in translation' kind of thing."
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                    • #11
                      None.

                      It's because of these silly Max Headroom clones that we're only getting sixteen civs in the first place. I'd rather have more civs than any talking heads.

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                      • #12
                        I'm surprised at the weight people are giving this. People complain that Firaxis is taking too long, but continuously ask for more, better graphics and options. Firaxis cannot possibly get the game out in a reasonable amount of time if they try to please everyone. Having two leaders (or more) doesn't affect the game AT ALL, it's just another pretty picture to look at. If Firaxis already included two for each, I'll shut up, but I don't think that's the case. I also hope that if/when I'm right (), people will keep their complaining to a minimum. Firaxis is working very hard and does not deserve the criticism they are getting, especially not because of something as minor as this.

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                        • #13
                          Add-on pack?

                          I agree with Sabre2th. Something like this might be appropriate for an add-on pack, though.
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                          • #14
                            If those talking heads are to represent the leaders there should be as much as there are leaders(and i hope that there are more than 2 for each civ with of course an specific way of gameplay attached to the leader)

                            Shade
                            ex-president of Apolytonia former King of the Apolytonian Imperium
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                            • #15
                              Well, with all the time spent on talking-leaders, how about talking advisors. They're supposedly just as animated, so I hope they talk too.

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