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    Sid says: "Civ III delivers visual realism like never before."

    First, what a joke. Oh Lord.

    Second, I doubt he even said that. Some silly questions came to Firaxis for Sid and some silly person answered for him. Happens ALL the time in this biz. Anyway, he probably hasn't even seen Civ 3 except in passing down the hallway on his way to Maxis. But as you look at the picture below, consider that we DO, indeed, have a realists' club, and this (at least to Sid --or the publicist--) is how realists want to the world to look. Hmmm, exciting eh? Yeah, Sid. Keep it real, baby. Keep it real.

    I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

    "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.
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    Don't mind me. I'm just posting something remotely realistic for rough comparison, in case "realistic" is a vague concept to some people, like Sid's PR person.

    I've been on these boards for a long time and I still don't know what to think when it comes to you -- FrantzX, December 21, 2001

    "Yin": Your friendly, neighborhood negative cosmic force.

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    • #3
      You might be right about Sid not actually answering some of the questions.

      Yin, I don't think you should be showing pictures of crap. That's exactly what that is, crap. I mean it sure is nice how it looks like the road magically comes off from the ground goes over a mountain and then returns back to the ground, that amazing. I'm not sure if those are cities, they look more like city dumps to me. I have absolutely no idea on what those units are down at the bottom. Overall, I would like to say good job to the janitor (there's nothing wrong with being a janitor IMO) down at Firaxis. How you've been able to make crap look this good is outstanding. So keep up the good work on the graphics, Firaxis's janitor. That is who did these graphics right? Oh you say no, then what the hell are you people doing down there at Firaxis land? Right now I would do anything for some old fashioned Atari graphics if Civ3 wouldn't have to have these graphics.
      However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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      • #4
        You pestimists and your conspiracy theories are beyond me. Besides the borders/roads not going behind the mountains (which they probably should by release) everything graphics-wise looks fine to me. Keep up the good work, Firaxis.
        "Proletarier aller Länder, vereinigt euch!" -- Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels
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        • #5
          You pestimists and your conspiracy theories are beyond me.
          Hey, I'm not a pessimist (I was for one day, though). I am, as of right now, the sole member of The Critically Literal Optimist Association (TCLOA), accepting anybody (except anybody who already belongs to a club).
          However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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          • #6
            TechWins, you should know that organizations with an barrvation of under 6 letters are not officially recognized by Apolyton
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            • #7
              Now I do not have that large of a gripe with the Civ3 graphics, as a whole (Oh yes, there is room for improvement...) But there was something in the interview that rubbed the wrong way:

              "CVG: Is Civ III sufficiently different from previous incarnations to feel like a new game, even to veterans of the series?

              Meier: Yes! With all of the new and updated systems we’ve put in Civ III (like the enhanced trade system, the new concept of culture, greatly expanded diplomacy, more powerful combat and the most detailed and beautiful art, animations and sound ever found in the genre"

              The last bit bugged me ... seemed to be a lot of emphasis on the graphics, animations and sound (I must admit that the first bit is intriguing, trade, culture etc.)...

              Perhaps I am just grumpy coz I need sleep. It still rubbed me the wrong way, though.
              "When you have to shoot, shoot, don't talk." -Tuco Benedicto Juan Ramirez
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              • #8
                Sid distinctly said visual REALISM, so whats with all the pestimism?
                "Proletarier aller Länder, vereinigt euch!" -- Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels
                "If you expect a kick in the balls and get a slap in the face, that's a victory." -- Irish proverb

                Proud member of the Pink Knights of the Roundtable!

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                • #9
                  TechWins, you should know that organizations with an barrvation of under 6 letters are not officially recognized by Apolyton
                  Oh I see, so you're prejudice. I mean you're discriminating against small things. I can't help that my club has a small abbreviation. Now look what you did, you made me cry. Are you proud of yourself? Just to let people who didn't realise this but I was joking. I'll ride off into the sunset (actually sunrise for me right now) all alone as the sole member of my club (TCLOA) because all of Mark having to be prejudice. Thanks Mark.
                  However, it is difficult to believe that 2 times 2 does not equal 4; does that make it true? On the other hand, is it really so difficult simply to accept everything that one has been brought up on and that has gradually struck deep roots – what is considered truth in the circle of moreover, really comforts and elevates man? Is that more difficult than to strike new paths, fighting the habitual, experiencing the insecurity of independence and the frequent wavering of one’s feelings and even one’s conscience, proceeding often without any consolation, but ever with the eternal goal of the true, the beautiful, and the good? - F.N.

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                  • #10
                    Alex

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                    • #11
                      Some of those questions are definantly not answered by Sid Meier. I'm not too hapy with the graphics in Civ 3, but it might just look bad in the screenshots.
                      Alex

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                      • #12
                        Looks as if Sid(to be "optimistic" for once") was just expaning on what little had already been said. As for the screenschots I the colours are just way too off, I prefer the look Civ2 over this, I really would like to have seen CTP2 o better terrian, maybe not for the units.

                        Does anyone beside me get the feeling(from this interview) that they don't have the MP system worked out yet?

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                        • #13
                          Grow up! Sid Meier isn't a real person. He's a fairytale creature. He's the Santa Claus of computer games.
                          CSPA

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                          • #14
                            wow. yin you are really low now. you take a screenshot that looks like crap and say that it represents the entire civ series. that is just sad. youve used that enough already, when are you gonna realise that this art is old. do you really think there gona let a road run over a mountain? if you do you have ALOT to learn about the gaming buisiness. then you compare it with a screenshot from a game in wich graphics are the only thing going for it. that is really sad. i, to tell ya the truth, LIKE that screenshot. and before you tell me that is constructive criticism then tell me WHY you have continued to use the same screenshot from your previous whinings. haven't you already proven that you dont like that screenshot? if you did then why press on? and if you made a game and went to a interveiw and was asked "will veteran fans feel the same about this game as they did with civ2" would you go "no. infact they will hate it, no one should ever buy it"? tell me when you come up with a new batch of "constructive whining"
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                            • #15


                              by the way, when was a walking sphinx very realistic? thats RTS. if you haven't noticed civ is TBS. they are a tad bit different
                              "Nuke em all, let god sort it out!"

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