Granting conquests autonomy (provincial status)

[Grumbold]

Originally posted by JellyDonut
After WW2, Europe was split up between the U.S./England and the Soviet Union and both sides set up satellite nations. I think it would be neat to incorporate into Civ 3, but I sincerely doubt that will be the case.

The USSR annexation of Eastern Europe left them with countries that were (in Civ terms) completely absorbed and under their full control. Calling places like Poland puppet states would not alter the game mechanics of still retaining full control.

The Allied occupation of West Germany resulted in the return of the territory to its democratic government, which again is handled already in Civ terms - alliance of nations.

It seems to me like this whole concept can be handled just by giving a nation its soverignity back after conquest but having its initial diplomatic stance set to "friendly" to reflect the people in power being willing to trade and make alliances with you. That gets you the trading partner that expands automatically but is willing to obey most diplomatic requests without having to code a whole new approach.

[campmajor!]

Originally posted by JellyDonut

Exactly. After WW2, Europe was split up between the U.S./England and the Soviet Union and both sides set up satellite nations. I think it would be neat to incorporate into Civ 3, but I sincerely doubt that will be the case.

What?

Europe was certainly not split up after ww2! Perhaps if you call Berlin Europe you would be right.

I do not consider my country as a satellite nation!

The problem with Europe is that it hasn't been and will never be one whole.

[Recurve]

Originally posted by campmajor!
Europe was certainly not split up after ww2!

The countries to the east of the "Iron Curtain" were definitely satellites of the USSR. Western Europe, including Holland remained independant (as before the war). But I do recall Holland was once a satellite of Spain! What a prospect.

[Colonâ„¢]

Related to granting autonomy, I think it would be nice if the choice of government forms would be expanded. Not just between democracy or monarchy but also between unitary state (eg: France), federal state (US, Germany) or confederation. (CIS?)

The attraction of a the first would be a large control for you over all edges of your empire, the second would reduce corruption and the scope for rebellion and the third could be offered as an option for rebellious provinces, giving them more freedom while maintaining the empire, or as the advanced stage beyond an alliance.
However, I can’t think of many durable or effective confederations, it seems more to be a form of a provisional arrangement or a compromise between federation and maintaining two separate countries.
It would also be possible to organise an empire into provinces, which would simply be a compilation of cities with a governor.

Not that I believe there’s any chance this would be implemented of course , but it would be an interesting feature IMHO.