re: new screenshots, "Make more culture"

[splangy]

ummm i don't think this art is new, i think firaxis gave them some old ****ty screens. why?? becouse we have already seen screens with new people, art, an advisor saying " the french are weak. lets attack them with paper airplanes" or somthing, and they didn't say that it took 9999 turns to build somthing. i think they are gona get the game right unlike EVERYONE keeps saying. god these forums are depressing, i like civ fanatics center more becouse they dont ***** and moan. . have they ever made a COMPLETE fluke??? no? so stop whining!

[Zanzin]

oh well, if you don't like it here, take a hike!

Its not our fault we're negative....yin made us this way - its hard not to share his infectuous negativity and inherant loathing of Firaxis!!

And it wouldn't suprise me if they used the civ2 graphics for the little people......after all, we're getting essentially the same combat engine as civ2...gripe gripe....

[splangy]

Originally posted by Zanzin
oh well, if you don't like it here, take a hike!

im just curius when said that i didn't like it here? i just said that some places are more positive than here.

yin, in my beleif, is actually dan M trying to bring down expectations so that when they release the game we all praise them, then there egos are completly fed. do i have any proof? notice that the less he posts the more dan does and vise verse?

[Zanzin]

Originally posted by splangy


yin, in my beleif, is actually dan M trying to bring down expectations so that when they release the game we all praise them, then there egos are completly fed. do i have any proof? notice that the less he posts the more dan does and vise verse?

lol, it wouldn't suprise me!!

[splangy]

im serius! Dan hasent said a word since yin started talking again.

i hope dan isn't scared of yin! if he did than

[Zanzin]

I take it you're a bit angry.....

[Provost Harrison]

Re: Arts and culture.

OK, from what I can tell from one of the screenshots, the two are linked, but certainly not the same. Culture is 'emitted' from certain city improvements or factors of society or wonders, and determines the rate of expansion and position of your borders. I think I know what art is as well from one of the city view screenshots. Art=luxuries (in civ2 context). As luxuries are now commodities traded on the map, the concept of donating a certain proportion of your tax to make people 'happy' or quell discontent is now known as art. You are not buying luxuries with that money, but investing in the arts. Same thing, different name. I twigged this because the screenshot showed what was coming from the city, and it showed tax, science and art...so it seemed quite intuitive...

[Trdi]

They can write the advice 2 days before the release, why are you making problems?

[tniem]

Originally posted by Trdi
They can write the advice 2 days before the release, why are you making problems?

Two days before release? I know you must be overexagerating or talking about going gold, otherwise my post would solely be about how long it will take to burn a 100,000 disks with updated advice.

However, I must disagree that advice can be written so late in game developement. The game testers need to see if the advice that is being given is in the appropriate place. I.E. you don't want the game to give the advice of building space ships before that technology has been researched. Or you don't want advice to build more cities being given when Firaxis' implemented anti-ICS ideas are about to go into effect.

Game testers must also see if the advice being given is even good advice. It might not necessarily be good advice for you to build an adequate in a city to allow it to grow if an enemey's army is aproaching.

All of these things must be tested. Giving good advice is not an easy thing. So if the game was going to be ready by the end of the year, Firaxis better have at least begun testing advice.

[Zanzin]

For the above reasons that tniem stated, I do hope that Firaxis don't rush the game. If they're putting in all this placeholder stuff now, and leaving it till the last minute to put in the real stuff.....could be a lot of problems.

However...we don't know how old these screenshots are that we're seeing...could by 2 weeks, 6 months, who knows. Firaxis are too secretive!

[N35t0r]

OK...

Let's try to find a solution to all our problems....


Who is in to try and hack into Firaxis' servers, and get a copy of how the game is so far?

[tniem]

UberKruX found a bug from Civ II that never was fixed that proves why you cannot just write advice late in game developement. Take a look at it http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...67#post378367.