Differentiating between economic systems and political systems.

[KrazyHorse]

Where's the hatred? I was agreeing with you. Capitalism is the optical form of democracy.

[Juggernaut]

Oh, you have changed your mind? Cool.

[N35t0r]

Democracy does not mean freedom.

it means electing your leaders.

i don't know why that an't be done with socialism.

and Socialism doesn't necesarily mean that you have no freedom, you could be given basic goods, and then x amount of credits to buy other things, only these would be decided by the gov't. a less productive, lazy worker would get less for letting the system down, and vice-versa, which would be a good way to encourage working hard...

[Juggernaut]

because in socialism other people tell you what do with your money, and what´s best for you. don´t you think you can decide that for your self?

[ancient]

too far off topic now.. this isnt a communist capitalist or stalinist, socialist, maoist, or anything post, its about whether you think having the systrem with combinations that is still simple to use (like mine) would be good fro gameplay..

[Juggernaut]

Asch, this thread is dead anyway. =)

[ancient]

well you posted in it the most, your very stuborn, and i made it weeks ago..

[Juggernaut]

i know, i killed it.

[Lou Wigman]

This thread was supposed to be about differentiating between economic and political systems. In reality, as is well demonstrated by the ranting here the two are closely linked. However let us try to get some sanity back into this discussion.

Economically speaking communism is a system whereby society as a whole owns the means of production. In the Soviet version this means the 'State'. Whilst I haven't read Karl Marx book 'Das Capital'. I am not sure that this is what he intended.

Fascism, on the other hand, is an economic system where the State is run for the benefit of big business. Economically speaking it is really little different from most Western democracies in which the same objective rightly or wrongly is predominant.

As I have already said, each ECONOMIC system also carries a lot of POLITICAL baggage. Is it possible to separate the two ? I think not.

[Eternal]

There should be a sliding scale of personal and economic freedoms. The position of the state as indicated on this scale will bring about certain results, good and bad. You shouldn't only be able to choose from a list of government or economic types. However certain limits should be set so that you can't go too far one way or the other without advances (the importance of communication as a tool of freedom and oppression).

[TechWins]

i know, i killed it.

You're a loser. What you need to do is start to post something worth people's time or don't post at all. Stop going around to good threads or any thread for that matter and messing them up with your lame and uninformed comments.

[Juggernaut]

Cute.

[TechWins]

Cute.

I'll say this again, please stop hitting on me.

[Juggernaut]

Since you obviously seem to believe I´m serious, I just have to say: Get a life, get some humour, get some brilliant ideas like me - and everything will be just fine. Besides, noone should ever call anyone loser here. I mean, we´re all sweaty boys who´s discussing a game that hasn´t even come out yet! Over and out.