Piecing together the civs and their leaders...

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Provost Harrison
Victoria would be good .... never really directed the country per se.

Neither did Joan D'Arc.

I would prefer Vicki, as she is synonymous with the British Empire at its height. What more can you ask for from a Civ leader?

[joseph1944]

I know how to settle who will be leader of England. Our leader should be King Aedwin of Northumbria and Bregusind. He was king during 614 AD time frame. Also he was the Uncle of St. Hild (614 A.D. to 680 A.D.) who is known at Saxon Goddess of War. Maybe some of our English friends who are History Buff can fill us in on King Aedwin and St. Hild.
Now for some real fun. It turns out that King Aedwin is one of my ancestor either as a Uncle or Grandfather. 2 of his later family in 1634 left England for the U.S. There is over 5,000 family in the U.S. that still carry the family name. Since Elizabeth is German maybe we should return to England and claim the Throne. As lease I'm almost 50% saxon.

[TechWins]

I would be really happy if these are the 16 civs. Although, I would like to have seen a South American Civ included, just for the sake of playing on World Map.

[Provost Harrison]

Very true BC I suppose. I suppose they are both very important figureheads in their own right, more embody the spirit of a nation rather than lead them.

DarkCloud, I had all this stuff swimming around in my head so it actually didn't take me all that long. I just remember looking at screenshots and making mental notes of things that were there. I remember a lot of the cities from Civ/Civ2 so I could attribute a civ to them as soon as I saw them. And picking things out of the video quite quickly. Snapcase has some nice pictures of special units, as well as those released by Firaxis. It was just a matter of typing it all down and remembering everything.

[Fidel]

Re: Re: Piecing together the civs and their leaders...

Catherine the Great or Stalin, I'd guess Stalin, but again, the whole politically correct thing...

Stalin or Peter the Great for male leaders, Catherine might come into play. Would love to see Suvorov, Kutuzov or Zhukov as military leaders.
PCorrectness really sucks. I mean, who better to represent Russians than a bloodthirsty dictator..... Peter fits the bill too...hehe

[Rollo_CH]

http://apolyton.net/civ3/images/view.shtml?screenshots/civ3e3p18.jpg

Dont that picture confirm Alexander as the Greek leader?

As for Stalin: I think its the same as having Hitler as the German leader=Bad idea!
More "Anti-christ" is hard to find...

[Provost Harrison]

Absolutely spot on there, failed to notice that. Updated first post in thread.

[Locutus]

Oops, PH, looks like you're doing double work. Paiktis, myself and others have been running our own threads on this matter for quite a while already: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...0&pagenumber=3

[Robert]

Mao

As for Stalin: I think its the same as having Hitler as the German leader=Bad idea!
More "Anti-christ" is hard to find...

Hmmm, the chinese have Mao as their leader. (confirmed)
Mao is the biggest murder in history ! Millions of chinese people starved under his regime.

If Mao is in the game, I see no reason why they would leave out Stalin because of the pc thing.

[Buck Birdseed]

My guess would still be Catherine because she is the most famous and skillful female leader of all time, and since they want more female leaders Catherine the Great is the obvious choice.

I still think Boadicea should be queen of the brits...

[AncientPharaoh]

Well...they could just use Lennin for Russia then, he wasn't that bad, wasn't there nearly as long...but oh well.

[Rollo_CH]

Yes i guess Mao was bad too...most of them was really bad when i think of it...but then again its a game of world domination...and you wouldnt win with a soft attitude..

I think Peter the Great should be the Russian leader...he did most for the emerging nation and their expansion into a major power in European politics.

[Fidel]

Originally posted by Rollo_CH

http://apolyton.net/civ3/images/view.shtml?screenshots/civ3e3p18.jpg

Dont that picture confirm Alexander as the Greek leader?

As for Stalin: I think its the same as having Hitler as the German leader=Bad idea!
More "Anti-christ" is hard to find...

Now, now, a typical piece of revisionist history. Absolutely no one can or shall be compared with a man who basically planned to turn whole nations into soap.
Even Churchill admitted in his speach to the Parliament that Stalin 'inherited Russia with a plough and left it with a nuclear bomb'. Hitler left Germany in ruins.
As for Stalin's human rights record, well, let's judge him against his times (just like we do in the case of Genghis Khan and Peter the Great).

Oh one more thing, I propose Dubbya as one's American leader on Deity level (for HP). What a guy....

[Footie Mad]

Re: Re: Re: Piecing together the civs and their leaders...

Originally posted by LaRusso


Stalin or Peter the Great for male leaders, Catherine might come into play. Would love to see Suvorov, Kutuzov or Zhukov as military leaders.
PCorrectness really sucks. I mean, who better to represent Russians than a bloodthirsty dictator..... Peter fits the bill too...hehe

Then we ought to put Hitler as the german leader???

[johndmuller]

So a lot of these leaders are not really nice, what's wrong with that? Would you rather Attila the Nun?

I know that old Abe is a Civ Classic, but he was a "unificator" with a lot of blood on his hands - it was hardly Our Fiinest Hour, except maybe for the Emancipation Proclamation, and are we really sure that was policy and not strategy? I don't know if I have any great suggestions instead (Washington would be kind of boring too). Maybe someone like Teddy Roosevelt?

Perhaps we could use a little more diversity away from military/historical types too. Ghandi and Tecumseh are cool, but we could have more in non-military directions. What about Confusious, Budda, Moses, Christ, Pythagoras, Mohammed, Pope somebody-or-other, Socrates, Lao Tzu, Oddyseus, Mars, Thor, Grendel's Mother, Prometheus, Clark Kent, ......