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Just out of curiosity--how much use have more experienced played made of the espionage system. It just seems too expensive and random to have any significant place in a viable strategy. Just planting a spy alone is a dicey situation.
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The only time I ever use it is to provoke someone into declaring war against me. Usually (99% of the time) I just attack 'em, though. Sometimes its just more satisfying to get them good and angry first.
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I usually have better use for my gil.I've allways wanted to play "Russ Meyer's Civilization"Comment
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i sue it, but then again i use everything in the game to get the whole sensation, no point just using one tactic all the time, more fun experimentingGM of MAFIA #40 ,#41, #43, #45,#47,#49-#51,#53-#58,#61,#68,#70, #71Comment
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It's worth it alone to see exactly how many of each type of unit the opponent has in the military adviser screen.
I feel justified in saving and reloading if planting a spy doesn't work because I also think that espionage in this game is pretty much a shoddy afterthought. In Civ2, I used espionage all the time because you could plant nukes and poison water supplies! And if you were a fundamentalist, civs weren't allowed to declare war on you because terrorism was expected of such extreme regimes.
Ah, the good old days of Civ2.
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I do use espionage to plant spies...but I agree - the espionage portion of Civ3 needs work.____________________________
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CHEATOriginally posted by David Murray
It's worth it alone to see exactly how many of each type of unit the opponent has in the military adviser screen.
I feel justified in saving and reloading if planting a spy doesn't work because I also think that espionage in this game is pretty much a shoddy afterthought. In Civ2, I used espionage all the time because you could plant nukes and poison water supplies! And if you were a fundamentalist, civs weren't allowed to declare war on you because terrorism was expected of such extreme regimes.
Ah, the good old days of Civ2.
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I will sometimes cheat the same way. Depends if I'm (mentally) ready for war or not.
To see where all their military units are for a turn (Steal Plans) is really cool. Of course, anytime you use your spy for other than Investigate City (and I do not know what else), there is risk of it being lost.
The more expensive spy missions are risky. If I am not far ahead, then I don't risk them; if I AM far ahead, I have no need for them.Comment
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I only use it for investigating cities to check up on the wonder building of my rivals...
but for stealing techs and suck, nope never even tried itYou saw what you wanted
You took what you saw
We know how you did it
Your method equals wipe outComment
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I concur. The only thing I do with my planted spies is investigate cities (mainly the wonder-building ones). Everything else that the spy "could" do is just way too expensive for my taste - especially if you spend the exorbinant amount of gold only to find out that your spy was caught, your gold wasted, and now you're at war - in which case the thousands of gold you just spent to basically get your spy killed and started a war over could have been better spent on the war effort that your spy triggered in the first place!
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plant spies to see how many/type unit
occassionaly check out cities (quite often to see how close to a wonder)
may steal a tech if behind mid game (very rare)
every blue moon steal the military plansComment
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Investigating cities during war to inspect defenders and defensive improvements can ensure your not being upset as you make an assault on a city.Comment
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the most used espionage info i use is the military advisor to check how many units the AI has. after that comes investigate city and steal tech. steal tech is risky and expensive business though
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My thoughts exactly.Originally posted by David Murray
It's worth it alone to see exactly how many of each type of unit the opponent has in the military adviser screen.
I rarely use the espionage missions though (mostly examine city to check progress on a wonder, rarely steal plans if I have lots of cash and feel like seeing what the AI is up to).Comment
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