Holy Cow. Elite Ancient Cavalry can't produce MGL's?

[MrWhereItsAt]

WHY on Earth do you still have that? It's a lie that they cost no maintenance, you know....

[vmxa1]

That puppy looks like disband material to me. Thanks for the proof. Now I know I was not dreaming again.

[pauli]

i still have the ancient cav for the same reason i'm playing a game with over 100k in the bank.

[MotownDennis]

I'm not really sure that he's all that concerned about the maintenance with his 100,000 gold. Yikes! I've never had that much at one time.

[Shogun Gunner]

well that's irrefutable proof. Thanks for posting that pauli.

I have Zeus in my current game...hopefully I'll get a MGL this time. I'll tell my ancient cavalry boys it's possible....

[steven8r]

I too, have gotten a MGL (2 of them) from ACav.

Unfortunately, since that game, I've not been able to build SoZ.

[pauli]

Originally posted by MotownDennis
I'm not really sure that he's all that concerned about the maintenance with his 100,000 gold. Yikes! I've never had that much at one time.

the money sorta snuck up on me. i'd been holding steady around 30k for a good while, then i stopped buying things and stopped paying attention... and then i noticed the sixth digit

if propaganda EVER WORKED, i'd be able to buy out my enemies.

[Arrian]

Heh, that is a lot of cash.

Artifex,

Are you sure your guys were elite (sounds weird, but the +1 hp thing confuses some people)?

If they were, and you did not have an active MGL, then you hit a nasty run of bad luck.

However, even if A.C. could not generate Leaders, the Statue would still be awesome. 200 shields in exchange for a 3.2.2 unit with +1 hp every 5 turns? It's awesome!

-Arrian

[SlightlyMadman]

Yeah, I just got a GL from one last night. I have a related question, though. I captured it from my enemy, but don't have any ivory of my own. I immediately traded for some, because I assumed it won't work without it. It occurs to me that this isn't based on any hard information, though?

I also noticed they don't have an upgrade path specified (same with crusaders). I'm thinking about putting them into my new army, even though I have nights, since I can't upgrade them anyways, and it should still make a pretty good army. Any advice on this?

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Arrian
Heh, that is a lot of cash.

Artifex,

Are you sure your guys were elite (sounds weird, but the +1 hp thing confuses some people)?

I was going to ask this

[Sarxis]

I really need more MGLs in my games. Its streaky like the combat rolls- some games I keep getting them, but most, I seem to have a hard time.

[Arrian]

Originally posted by SlightlyMadman
Yeah, I just got a GL from one last night. I have a related question, though. I captured it from my enemy, but don't have any ivory of my own. I immediately traded for some, because I assumed it won't work without it. It occurs to me that this isn't based on any hard information, though?

I also noticed they don't have an upgrade path specified (same with crusaders). I'm thinking about putting them into my new army, even though I have nights, since I can't upgrade them anyways, and it should still make a pretty good army. Any advice on this?

1) I believe SoZ will work even if you don't have any ivory. You just need a source of ivory to start building SoZ (you can lose that source partway through and still finish the wonder). I don't think it has any effect on the unit production. But I'm not 100% sure on that.

2) Well, a 3x A.C. army would have these stats: 4.3.3. If built with the elite* unit that generated the leader, plus 2 veteran units, that would be 16hp's of 4.3.3. That's pretty hardcore.

However, 3x knights = 6.4.3. With 3 vets, that's 12hps.

Up to you. One way gives more movement & hp at the expense of 2 attack and 1 defense.

How far are you from Cavalry?

-Arrian

[vmxa1]

Hum, I thought that if you captured SoZ and had no ivory it would not produce any units. I never seen Ivory deplete, so I am not sure about if you lose it. If it was a trade, though, then you could lose ivory. Maybe someone has dealt with it.

[SlightlyMadman]

Well, since it looks like I'll have to abandon the game anyways, since I can't keep playing it with the new patch, I'll just cancel the deal and let it run 5 turns, and see if it keeps producing. I probably won't get to play again before Thursday, though, but I'll post here when I've tested it.

[pauli]

without ivory, the soz produces culture, but not units.