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Is everyone getting the same result as me? Is Marseilles losing its hill for you guys also?
Is everyone getting the same result as me? Is Marseilles losing its hill for you guys also?
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Why would you want to trade a shield rich tile like a hill for a desert?Comment
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I think there should have been a compromise between being able to level the Himalayas in 20 years (as in civ 3). At the same time. Soem minor terraforming should be allowed (i.e. plains to grassland, desert to plains) but this should take a long time, maybe 100 turns for one industrious worker. It would give workes something to do late game other than clean pollution and sit, but wouldn't cause the power to be abused.Citizen of the Apolyton team in the ISDG
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It seems fair to me.Originally posted by CiverDan
I think there should have been a compromise between being able to level the Himalayas in 20 years (as in civ 3). At the same time. Soem minor terraforming should be allowed (i.e. plains to grassland, desert to plains) but this should take a long time, maybe 100 turns for one industrious worker. It would give workes something to do late game other than clean pollution and sit, but wouldn't cause the power to be abused.
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Hmm. I always hated the terraforming in civ 2. I cant even begin to imagine the amount of work it would take to move an ENTIRE mountain range. This isnt one solitary lump of rock we are talking about. It seems to border on the impossible. And where would you put all of the rock?
plains to grasslands seems to be more of a prevailing weather factor than quality of soil etc. No matter how much you terraform, its still gonna be damn sunny in Spain. The only real improvement you could make would be one of water, or more organic nutrients (compost) which is already well covered with irrigation and rail.Safer worlds through superior firepowerComment
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Haven't tried your game so I can't say for sure if I get the same result, but I have seen this happen before.Originally posted by Turrosh Mak
Is everyone getting the same result as me? Is Marseilles losing its hill for you guys also?
It happened in one of my nuke happy games where a hill/mountain only resource (can't remember which one) ended up on the desert/floodplain tile.
I don't think it's supposed to happen as I've never seen another hill/mountain flattened by nukes. Maybe it only happens on resource hills/mountains or maybe it's only because they have resources on them that we notice.
But I'm a firm believer in that global warming and nukes are not supposed to have any effects on mountains or hills because the occurance is rare.badamsComment
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Could it be, that when city is built, that hill is leveled to grassland status, but it gets it's defence bonus?Comment
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You can get to these resources far easier than using nukes. Send a worker to the island and sacrifice him to build an airport on the island. Airlift (if you mod) a worker or bring along a spare in the transport to road and colonize the resource (don' t forget a couple of good defenders)Originally posted by PLATO
This is an interesting and important question. I was not even aware of this ability until I saw it in another thread. I have several times come across an island of all mountains with resorces I wanted and had no idea what to do with them.* A true libertarian is an anarchist in denial.
* If brute force isn't working you are not using enough.
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Ahh...Of Course! I should have thought of that. Thanks!Originally posted by Mad Bomber
You can get to these resources far easier than using nukes. Send a worker to the island and sacrifice him to build an airport on the island. Airlift (if you mod) a worker or bring along a spare in the transport to road and colonize the resource (don' t forget a couple of good defenders)"I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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Re: Leveling Hills/Mountains with Nukes
Sounds to me like you are describing the in-game effects of global warming. That causes involuntary terrain changes.Originally posted by Turrosh Mak
In my current game, I noticed that a French city nuked by the Romans had a hill turn into desert. I don't know how many nukes it took to accomplish this. I've had 2 nukes hit Berlin and none of the hills in the blast radius have suffered the same fate.
Does anyone know how many nukes it takes or what chance nukes have of flatting a mountain/hill, and what terrain they change into: mountain/hill/(plain?)/desert?
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Re: Re: Leveling Hills/Mountains with Nukes
Pollution can cause a mountain to change to desert????? This is the first I have heard of this. Has anyone else ever had this experience?Originally posted by Vince278
Sounds to me like you are describing the in-game effects of global warming. That causes involuntary terrain changes.
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Re: Re: Re: Leveling Hills/Mountains with Nukes
Never seen it myself, but I already saw posted images with plains changed to sea due global warming (after nuclear war I think); so... why not.Originally posted by PLATO
Pollution can cause a mountain to change to desert????? This is the first I have heard of this. Has anyone else ever had this experience?Nym
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Leveling Hills/Mountains with Nukes
It makes one wonder if the use of nuclear weapons changes the effects of pollution. In the initial case, the change occured after a nuke was used. Your example is also after a nuke was used. I wonder if it changes the protocols for pollution? Any ideas on if this is possible?Originally posted by Nym
Never seen it myself, but I already saw posted images with plains changed to sea due global warming (after nuclear war I think); so... why not."I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003Comment
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No idea. But AFAIR the nukes were not used on the tile that changed.Originally posted by PLATO
It makes one wonder if the use of nuclear weapons changes the effects of pollution. In the initial case, the change occured after a nuke was used. Your example is also after a nuke was used. I wonder if it changes the protocols for pollution? Any ideas on if this is possible?Nym
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Interesting idea plato. You mean after someone has used nukes, then pollution and global warming turn into this more 'evil' pollution? I dont know if its possible, but Id like to find out.Safer worlds through superior firepowerComment
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