Right of Passage and AI-knowledge.

[georges bonbon]

With the exchange of ROP, the human player has to wonder around on that specific AI-terrain to get the actual map development.

I have never seen the AI explore my terrain.

Does this mean that he gets automatically my Territory Map?

Is his knowledge updated every turn for the duration of the ROP?

[Panag]

Re: Right of Passage and AI-knowledge.

Originally posted by georges bonbon
With the exchange of ROP, the human player has to wonder around on that specific AI-terrain to get the actual map development.

I have never seen the AI explore my terrain.

Does this mean that he gets automatically my Territory Map?

Is his knowledge updated every turn for the duration of the ROP?

hi ,

the AI sees everything from the start , including all the resoucres , even if the AI does not have the tech to use them yet , .....

when you sell your map he just get a huge update , ....

so its common to see how two people go to war without you have sold any map , ......

have a nice day

[georges bonbon]

Re: Re: Right of Passage and AI-knowledge.

Originally posted by panag



when you sell your map he just get a huge update , ....

Thank you.

[Panag]

Re: Re: Re: Right of Passage and AI-knowledge.

Originally posted by georges bonbon



Thank you.

hi ,

no problem , geen probleem , pas un problem

your welcome

have a nice day

[georges bonbon]

Does he gets the update every turn during the ROP?

[Epistax]

georges: the ai knows the location of every city/unit/resource at all times, regardless of ROP or map trading. (The only 'negative' effect selling a map to someone has is giving them a more valuable map for them to trade to tohers)

To me, this is about the #1 problem with the AI. There's no such thing as a sneak attack, only an AI exploit.

[Panag]

Originally posted by Epistax
georges: the ai knows the location of every city/unit/resource at all times, regardless of ROP or map trading. (The only 'negative' effect selling a map to someone has is giving them a more valuable map for them to trade to tohers)

To me, this is about the #1 problem with the AI. There's no such thing as a sneak attack, only an AI exploit.

hi ,

it seems the AI does not know what units are in a city , ......

unless he has seen for example a ship enter and has not seen it come out , ....

at least that seems to be the general thinking , ....

have a nice day

[TheArsenal]

Originally posted by panag
hi ,

it seems the AI does not know what units are in a city , ......

unless he has seen for example a ship enter and has not seen it come out , ....

at least that seems to be the general thinking , ....

have a nice day

Does not know? I thought the common wisdom was the AI has a pretty good picture of what units are on the map. At least when it is in "attack mode". My own observational evidence seems points to this.

What the AI does not seem to know in advance, or probably more accurately, does not act on the knowledge, are position of goody huts. It's use of scouts seems to be somewhat less than prescient.

[bobbo008]

"What the AI does not seem to know in advance, or probably more accurately, does not act on the knowledge, are position of goody huts. It's use of scouts seems to be somewhat less than prescient."

i often see goodie huts right next to AI borders and they wont touch it for quite some time...

one time i was between the aztecs and spanish. several times, i began moving troops toward the aztec border to attack, each time, the spanish would move their troops closer to my border. I would move my troops back to defend, and the spanish would fall back, as well...

[Spiffor]

In earlier versions of the game, the AI knew exactly where my undefended cities were. An otherwise peaceful AI could suddenly declare war if some of my cities were undefended (even if they were deep in my borders), and it would go straight to these cities.

don't know if the AI continues doing so, because I haven't had undefended cities in quite some now

[Epistax]

I often have undefended core cities , and I think the enemy tries to reach them still, but my border defense includes strong offense so they never make it past. They do try.

[Kuciwalker]

The AI "knows" in the sense that the AI is on your computer, and the map is on your computer, so theoretically the AI could access it. However, the AI has been specifically programmed NOT to do this in the vast majority of cases.

[Turk Man]

how is that?

[Louis XXIV]

I noticed that if you block the AI from settling in an area (by building a city at a chole point and then filling in) they won't try to go there, unless you give them your map.

But I really don't care what they know ahead of time, if they still give me gold every turn for my map.

[Kuciwalker]

Turk Man - the AI is programmed with a certain behavior... but it is really just a long series of nested if-else blocks. So, they program it to look at only the knowledge that it "knows".

Theoretically, you know the entire map too. There is just a graphical effect keeping you from seeing it (the fog of war and unexplored area stuff can be edited so it is completely clear).