Gandhi's vow of poverty

[Kaos XIII]

Early in the game I see a lot of the weaker civs taking a vow of poverty. It's not India, I think it all depends on whether they are behind.

[dexters]

India is one of the best civs in the game. They always make a great ally.

The Gandhi portrait they did is really likable. He's always smiling and he's lovable even when he's angry, kind of like a brown Yoda.

[The Viceroy]

Ive always thought it should have been Indira Gandhi .. not Mahatma, Gandhi was never really that interested in power, it was his ofspring that were, and still are today, all be it half italian, and not particulary popular in India.

Although saying that, in many ways, I think Vajpayee will be seen as a great leader in the future, taking India into the 21st century, modern day India is hardly cash strapped (look at the worlds richest men, there are more Indians than Brits).

India only appear poor, when you spread the wealth amongst all its citizens, of which 70% are not participating in the economy in any major way .. spread the wealth amongst the 30% remaining, and you'll see that India's middle classes are increasingly well off.

[BulMaster]

besides in 5 10 years india will have the bigges pop in the world

[Panag]

Originally posted by BulMaster
besides in 5 10 years india will have the bigges pop in the world

hi ,

depends how china is doing , .....

have a nice day

[M. le Comte]

Re: Gandhi's vow of poverty

Originally posted by Quasar1011
When conducting diplomacy with India, it is very hard to trade with them. Why? Because they usually have 0 gold in their treasury! It's like Gandhi took a vow of poverty!

Why not ? Some secret stuffs seem to have been implemented. Perhaps are you going to say that I should stop eating very special mushrooms, but beyond the common features of each civ (expansionist, commercial, scientist...), it seems there are some hidden characteriscs.

For example, in all my games (PtW for several months), Egyptians keep beeing awful warmongers in the Antiquity, Americans keep breaking treaties, Mongols keep dominating their continent, so do the Iroquois, Corea keeps loosing all the time. It's really strange. I remember that in civ2, same phenomenons already happened, with a lesser importance.

[M. le Comte]

Originally posted by dexters
The Gandhi portrait they did is really likable. He's always smiling and he's lovable even when he's angry, kind of like a brown Yoda.

On the contrary, forget about mongols leader's portrait. Looks like Chewbaca.

[Rhothaerill]

A shaved Chewbacca!
I think it's funny that in the modern era Hannibal of the Carthaginians goes bald.

[Quasar1011]

Okay, it's later in the same game (my Canopus PTW map which I will upload shortly), and Gandhi had 8 gold once... but he is still poor compared to some other civs.... Korea seems to be good at having a decent treasury, and well-advance in science, when comparing several games. But India is so poor that I rarely want to even talk to them... all they offer me is a nice vegetarian curry!

[pedrojedi]

Korea is doing good?? What game are you playing?

Like the frenchguy said, Korea always goes a bad way in my games, save "almost" one exception... They were good, until the English resolved to turn them to living rotting slaves. They had to ask the ottomans for help, though.

Hey, the Ottomans are good AI enemies! They are tough. Siphar rules!

[Quasar1011]

Notes

After hours upon hours of civ (okay, days upon days ), my observations on the civs are as follows (and these are general traits, not absolutes):

Poorest civ: India
Richest civs: Egypt & Korea
Most agressive civs: Russia & Mongolia
Best ally: Greece
Most backstabbing civ: Persia
Strong early, weak later civs: Aztecs & Zulus

I just can't recall a game where Gandhi was rich! Maybe I'll have to pay closer attention to those lists that the historians make every so often...

[M. le Comte]

I dont' know why, but the best allies I have while playing with a european civ are the french. Maybe the AI does know my nationality ?

Anyway, french shouldn't be so faithful toward me. Each time they experience it, each time they forget about it...

[bobbo008]

Greece is pretty good, only backstabbed once.

France... ha, when i have the time, i'll take a few cities from them, send my troops elsewhere, and the rest of the French cities just wait for their conquering while i'm busying away somewhere else.

[Panag]

Re: Notes

Originally posted by Quasar1011
After hours upon hours of civ (okay, days upon days ), my observations on the civs are as follows (and these are general traits, not absolutes):

Poorest civ: India
Richest civs: Egypt & Korea
Most agressive civs: Russia & Mongolia
Best ally: Greece
Most backstabbing civ: Persia
Strong early, weak later civs: Aztecs & Zulus

I just can't recall a game where Gandhi was rich! Maybe I'll have to pay closer attention to those lists that the historians make every so often...

hi ,

what setting do you have , small map , distance between civ's , starting points , level , etc , ..... it all has an impact (!) , ....

have a nice day

[Greetings]

That's interesting. In most of my games, Gandhi's usually rolling in dough and building up his nuclear arsenal. In one of my first games, I absent-mindedly sold my only supply of uranium to India in exchange for 250 gpt and a lump sum of 1500. Later on, they ended up nuking me, capturing half of my cities, and getting all of their gold back. The moral: never sell Gandhi any uranium.