Next XP Suggestion Thread

[Louis XXIV]

Originally posted by player1
In order of importance:

1) Diplomacy editing

Definate "must have"

2) replay button in Hotseat and PBEM games

You mean they won't patch this?

3) Events editor

Definately want

4) extra 8 civs

Yes, they should add some civs (and maybe a unit or improvement) just for the people who don't like to mod the games

5) maybe even AI editing (although I think this one can't happen)

Don't think so either.

I think I could let this go, though

However, I'd like the AI to be able to use more of the editor options. What I mean is a unit that can only build roads will be used to build roads

I'd also like the ability to make unit pre-req's be Improvements, wonders, and govs

I want defensive bonuses against mounted units (maybe combat bonuses against other things, like defense against land/sea/air bombard, attack against foot units, stuff like that which doesn't require the AI to learn much in strategies)

The ability to ignore city defenses (with both bombard and/or attack)

While we're at it, I'd like the ability to have all the options to re-create a Fundamentalist government

I'd like all the options the Civ2 editor had (I pretty much mentioned them, this is basically mentioning the events editor)

I would love a graphics editor (but I'd doubt that they'd include that)

[Louis XXIV]

Oh

for the little things like new civs and junk I want:

8 civs (If you want, I'll tell you the ones I'd want the most)

Canals (about the only terrain improvement that isn't complicated)

A unit or 2 (maybe an ancient siege engine and something else)

[alva]

Mainly an MP thingy;

Camouflage worker option:
In MP IMO it would be great to create dummy resources (both strategic and lux), they could 'evaporate' as soon as the enemy controls the tile.
Or just being able to camouflage the real ones would be a start.
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'Nother worker action:
Sandbaggs to put on perimiters, not for defense bonusses, but to slow down units. The only other option we now have is building forests but they have a couple of drawbacks and weren't realy intended to be used as such.

[petermarkab]

i think there should be the ability to share a tile with a unit from a different civ, a la SMAC, where a right of passage meant exactly that.

I find it annoying when an 'ally' (someone who i have ROP with) moves his unit on my road, thus blocking my use of it.

This is totally unrealistic and should be fixed or added!!

[The Templar]

There are two things from SMAC they should import with respect to sharing tiles: allied units passing through each other/stacking together and the ability to sent your own troops inot an allied city to defend it. That would solve the roadblocking problem and be a good way to defend those weaker civs from the stronger.

Events would be nice, a full blown scripting language would be better (the one thing CTP did right)!

[Randolph]

1) Improved AI (I could go into specifics, but I guess that's OT)
2) AI that adapts better to MODs
3) Better editor (not for me, but I love user made MODs and scenarios)

not!!!
1) civs
2) units
3) other "MODable" feature, lets face it users do a better job. i.e. no BS

[ALPHA WOLF 64]

1) smarter AI. Specifically concerning how it builds improvements and units, and tile improvements based on that city’s need. Included in this would be for any worker not to improve tiles that aren’t being used except for roads/RR that connect unconnected cities. This also includes not building units strictly by cost. The AIs seem handicapped into only building the cheapest units available at the time, based on whether they need offensive or defensive units. Also the AI needs to keep a small amount of gold for rainy days instead of spending every cent.
2) Automated workers should never improve tiles that are not being used by a city.
3) Hidden nationality units should act as barbarians once build, except that they will not attack their builder.
4) Barbarians that are appropriate to the era.
5) Ability to pass thru, but not stop on allied units and cities.
6) Increase importance of renewing pacts by valuing them exponentially each time they are renewed. This allows real friendships to be created. Too often as a pact expires, an AI will go from gracious to furious. And late in the game, no matter how few transgressions that you’ve made, everyone will hate you. You should at least be able to forge permanent alliances otherwise I don’t see how a WW2 scenario will wont if nations start attacking their allies. Autorazing should not cause a rep hit since we have no control over it.
7) Canals. Treated as sea units by naval units (although can move only one tile per turn) and as land by land units. Since it would be a tile improvement, no other improvement would be allowed, and it would take many many turns to build.
8) Auto bombard. I took a city with 3 artillery in it, that I had bombarded for a few turns. Not once did they bombard me. I’m tempted to mod out bombard units since the AI seems totally incapable of using them.
9) Passable AND impassable mountain types.
10) Better luxury calculations. I was trying to trade for my eighth luxury by trading with the #2 power to give them their eighth. I had more cities, but many would get no additional happiness due to their size, whereas the AI cities were maxed out sizewise. They wanted an unbelievably high price including not only the luxury, but also 2 techs and a high gpt. I turned it down and beat up some small nation and acquired it that way.

[ALPHA WOLF 64]

11) An editor that allows you to rearrange unit order. Sometimes as units are modded in, they are hard to find in the build list. I’d also prefer the editor to have the worker tasks in the dropdown menu and the often used offensive/defensive unit flags as the check boxes. Too often I’ve accidently hit shift instead of cntl when adding a trait, and I have to redo the entire units traits.
12) Border respect, especially settlers.
13) Tile types should have the option not to extend a border. Personally, I wish borders did not extend in sea tiles or mountains.
14) Allow cities to be built next to each other on opposite sides of a river.
15) I’d love to see roads not automatically cross rivers. It would be great if bridges had to be built and wheeled units could not cross rivers except at bridges.
16) Ability to trade ANY unit in the capitol. I understand that this could be complicated in determining the actual value to each side, but I think it can be determined if its value by each side is balanced by the need of the buyer. Say I have cavalry units, but now have tanks. The cavalry may be too expensive to upgrade and not much value in disbanding whereas the unit may be desperately needed by an ally who has not yet discovered tanks. You should be allowed to trade units that would be considered obsolete by the buyer, nor units that they haven’t discovered that units required tech.
17) Improvement requirements for units. I really hate being able to produce tanks in cities that don’t have factories. Or swordsmen without armories.
18) Forts and colonies should be counted as permanent border tiles.
19) Cities should not be able to utilize sea tiles until they have discovered the tech that allows sea travel or have built the Great Lighthouse. Also, why does the Great Lighthouse NOT allow sea trading?
20) Ability to trade cities. I understand that many players exploit the ability to buy them, but there should be a way to trade conquered cities by looking at the dominant nationality of the city and the length of time owned. There should be great desire for the AIs to regain any cities whose majority is of that nationality.

[ALPHA WOLF 64]

21) There’s a foot flag and a wheeled flag, we need a horse flag.
22) Gold calculated per city should be based on total population, not total number of cities. And only once per turn. Barbarians would need to know that only one per turn should sack a city. And if a city would be autorazed by another civ, then it would also be autorazed by a barbarian.
23) The ability to capture a barbarian and make them a slave worker.
24) A combined hill/forest tile type. A forested hill is much more difficult to take than a barren hill.
25) Emancipation that turns all foreign workers into citizens.
26) Only modern foot units should be able to be airlifted. As the latest war showed, you cant airlift very many bradleys or Abrams.
27) Cities should not flip, but should become a new civ that you can choose to support their independence or watch them be crushed by the original civ.

[statusperfect]

add partisans, fundamentalism, fanatics and more african civs

cheers

[Kloreep]

1. Ability to edit pretty much anything about starting diplomacy (IIRC, the Firaxis announcemnent only mentioned "locked alliances". Nice, but still not very complete).

2. Events editor

3:

Originally posted by petermarkab
i think there should be the ability to share a tile with a unit from a different civ, a la SMAC, where a right of passage meant exactly that.

I find it annoying when an 'ally' (someone who i have ROP with) moves his unit on my road, thus blocking my use of it.

This is totally unrealistic and should be fixed or added!!

Agreed. Perhaps it should be more strict, like only if you have both a ROP + a MPP or Alliance, but this is one feature that would be really great.

[volsang]

Hi there, I new here. Although I have played this game in various incarnations since early 2001. and I Love it. My suggestion here is for the new xp. Is that they add more slots for adding Civilizations yourself, because people will keep making more leaderheads and to my knowledge, as it stands right now there are only 7 more slots open. But, I see in the new xp there adding 8 more. So maybe this has been adressed. Personally I would like to see up to 64 slots instead of the current 32. However, I don't care to have the ability to play against 62 other civ at once. I think my pentium 3 would just melt. I just would like to have more options as far as empires to play and the abilty to keep adding more as they are created. Just a thought Other than that hello out there.

[Jaybe]

8) Auto bombard. I took a city with 3 artillery in it, that I had bombarded for a few turns. Not once did they bombard me. I?m tempted to mod out bombard units since the AI seems totally incapable of using them.

This is the major advantage of the player in SP, though the AI will occasionally use artillery against your ships. I DO wish the AI would use their artillery when opposing units are within range.

9) Passable AND impassable mountain types.

As an alternative, just use the Editor to make ALL mountains impassable. Period. The next game I play will have that.

15) I?d love to see roads not automatically cross rivers. It would be great if bridges had to be built and wheeled units could not cross rivers except at bridges

Yes, rivers in this game are MAJOR rivers. Have to ferry across in boats if not bridged. I would like to have crossing rivers take extra movement points, at least.

26) Only modern foot units should be able to be airlifted

You can easily mod this with the editor. I have made only mech inf airliftable. No tanks, panzers or modern armor.

[The_Aussie_Lurker]

My XP wishlist:

1) CIVIL WARS!!!!!

2) Much more diplomacy options, and a better UN (not just for diplomatic victory!!)

3) A revamped trade system, where you don't get punished for broken trade deals which aren't your fault, and which makes both embargoes and piracy of trade routes a reality!!

4) EVENTS!!!!! (Disasters sounds good, but I'd also like positive events, like mass immigration, Mercenaries and The Rennaisance!!)

5) More editor options: like being able to make units which have buildings as prerequisites; Improvements which make resources, Small/Great wonders which double the X effect of improvement Y, in all cities (with X being happiness, production, culture, commerce); Small wonders which count as improvement X in all cities; Improvements which generate resources and luxury inside the cities radius; ability to set improvements etc so that they give you negative production/science bonus (like an improvement which improves happiness, but costs you science, or an improvement which decreases pollution, but reduces production!)-just to name a few!

6) Being able to base your units in Allied cities (like in SMAC)

7) Future eras would be nice, but not essential to me!

8) Making the Capital MUCH more important than it currently is (partly related to CW in (1) above! Should be the true "Heart of the Realm" so to speak!

9) The ability to co-ordinate attacks on specific targets (cities, stacks, forts) with your allies (related to Diplomacy above)

10) Though I like culture-related borders, as a start point, I feel that borders should also be on the bargaining table in Diplomacy (again, related to Diplomacy options!!)

Well, that's pretty much all I can think of, for now!!

Yours,
The_Aussie_Lurker.

[Spiffor]

A long time ago, Willem had a very good idea for the editor, and the news of a future XP make me repeat it, if the Friaxians are reading (unfortunately, the idea is relatively drastic, so I don't know if it is possible to adapt Civ3's code to match it).

The idea is to have a new dimension of corruption : general OR centralized. I.e, palace-centric corruption or not.
Currently, there is only one generalized corruption, and it is impossible to adjust the amount of corruption of a government form. That means, it is impossible to have a "rampant generalized corruption" in Theocracy for example, and "minimal generalized corruption" in Social Democracy or something.
The ability to adjust the level of corruption AND to tell if this corruption is palace centric or not would be a great addition IMHO