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Regarding the settler idea: Too bad it didn't work out. I would have disbanded him too just to keep my enemy from getting free workers.
Beta, we need to find out from Trip whether or not Portia is marked as their capital. I know the first city you build will be your capital. I do not know if that happens when your first city is given to you. If not, this could open up some interesting possibilities. I guess I need to do some testing tonight.
Contact with Lego: They do not have to make it all the way around the continent to reach us. All they need to do is make contact with one civ so the contact can be traded.
Maps: We need to get an agreement with GS and Lux that we will NOT trade any map that will reveal the location of Lux until Lux is in Legoland. That means no world map trades, and no trades of a territory map if that map would show the border of Lux. The sooner that Lux gets to Legoland the sooner they can start to rebuild, and the quicker we can reveal the world map and have the rest of the mainland civs scratching their heads.
Techs: Every time I played a Scientific civ I always got Monotheism. Since you can not trade a tech to another civ unless they have the ability to research that tech, we will get nothing from those three freebie techs from Lux. More important, Lux is going to need our help with tech research if they are to become viable again. Their research rate will be seriously curtailed until they can relocate and rebuild. They will get left in the dust if we do not help them.
Crossing the ocean: I think the best chance of this happening is for Lego to build the Great Lighthouse. They will probably need to cross sea, and maybe some ocean, to contact the mainland. We are too far away and will take too long to go around the main continent. I think there are some smaller islands in the Lego area. The could setup a city on one for Lux and they may be able to do some island hoping to make it to the mainland.
Lux build coordination: We need to work with Lux on what they will be building. I don't think they can spend all their time building galleys and settlers. I previously mentioned the Court House. We need to look at other good choices that work out for both of us since they may be there for a long time.
Reference: Portia is marked as their capital - It is marked as such. See last screen shots sent out.
I forgot that Lux as just a brighter color than us! At first I was wondering why the city trade didn't go through until I saw the "star" on Portolia and then realized that they are "Roman" red.
Well, I guess if they are going to hide and lick their wounds, they mght as well pick a civilization to hide in that is close to their own color.
____________________________ "One day if I do go to heaven, I'm going to do what every San Franciscan does who goes to heaven - I'll look around and say, 'It ain't bad, but it ain't San Francisco.'" - Herb Caen, 1996 "If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu ____________________________
Portia is now their capitol. You can see the star on the screen save.
Regarding techs - yes - I think you are right. I can't figure out any scenario where you enter the new era as a scientific civ, say hold it, don't give me the freebie until I do some trading. Nor can you gift a tech to a civ until they are in that era. So bit of a cartch-22. I will raise it with Trip and BFM to see if they have any ideas, or at least to start renegotiations on a couple of more techs.
Regarding contact - it will happen one way or the other. If possible, we need to convince Lego to come our way first. Not only will the contact be valuable, but it will help Lux on their way.
Question to all - should we share our wtitten agreement with Lux with Gathering Storm? They may need some assurance as to what we are up to. That and vondrack's letter should calm their nerves, if indeed they are nervous.
Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.
Well, I guess if they are going to hide and lick their wounds, they mght as well pick a civilization to hide in that is close to their own color.
Hadn't thought of it like that - but you are right. Wonder what the minimap image looks like. Hmmm.. Just checked on the recent screenshot. Pretty close.
Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war .... aw, forget that nonsense. Beer, please.
Originally posted by BetaHound
Question to all - should we share our wtitten agreement with Lux with Gathering Storm? They may need some assurance as to what we are up to. That and vondrack's letter should calm their nerves, if indeed they are nervous.
I concur, if GS is nervous about our arrangement with Lux, then a copy of the written agreement should go far to calm their nerves. This will also indicate our "openness" towards all civs on our landmass. If we don't share the agreement with GS, then they might think that we are hiding something.
____________________________ "One day if I do go to heaven, I'm going to do what every San Franciscan does who goes to heaven - I'll look around and say, 'It ain't bad, but it ain't San Francisco.'" - Herb Caen, 1996 "If God, as they say, is homophobic, I wouldn't worship that God." - Archbishop Desmond Tutu ____________________________
using my possition as FA I think I might give them the deal
Jon Miller
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GS wants us to limit to one combat unit int he Vox area
Jon Miller
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
I tihnk we want an agreement with GS that if they get pissed off (IE Lux beraks an agreement with them), we get to take the city back, or if they do, they gift it back to us
Jon Miller
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
ah, we dont' have the same deal with lux we don't give them our tech they will want mapmaking though see. they are desperate for cash. they could easily use their position to flip techs. (and we want them to have it) oh, you know that we both have contacs with the rest of the continent we would deal with the tech first yes, we want them to have MM, but not anything outside that path. we won't give them anything else great. we might trade, but they won't have anything to trade for a while (and yuo would get benifits of trade also) oops. ah, bad? yes, not good. so you want adon to the trade bill? I don't think that there is anything special with lux no. we do not want vox to give any tech to lux for any reason. hmm, is that deal breaker for you guys, or can we have discussion on that? we can make sure they get MM soon enough to get off our lands. please discuss. I mean, I guess it does not matter which of us trades with them (if they have something to trade) but it is weird that that is such a big deal to you I will present this request to Vox
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
Jon Miller- I AM.CANADIAN
GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.
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