Foreign Affairs - Volume 2

[Jon Miller]

(mainly our players did not get instructions to do so first)

Jon Miller

[Dis]

Jon are you online? Did you get the e-mail to talk to them on irc?

I am on irc right now

#civ3rp-vox

[Jon Miller]

I am online

but don't have MIRC available on this machine

Jon Miller

[Jon Miller]

I can post here

I think we decided to send them the contact info

but hadn't done it yet (failure of communication)

Jon Miller

[Dis]

ok

[Dis]

what is the deal with roleplay?

[Jon Miller]

I am not sure

say that we thought we were just dealing with GoW

Jon Miller

[Dis]

yeah I know. Whoever plays the turn should put up contact with GS this turn to both roleplay and GOW.

[Beta]

Sorry guys - I thought I had copied this over to here first thing this morning. Here is nbarclay's note, whcih jon has given a precis on earlier.

Tech Exchange
Greetings BetaHound, Jon, and People of Vox Controli,

While trying to address the trade situation, we of Gathering Storm realized that no formal agreement has ever been drawn up regarding our tech sharing arrangement. We have a general understanding to share all techs our two teams obtain at least for the time being, but that leaves room for possible misunderstandings later on. Of particular concern was making sure you do not view this as a game-long commitment on our part, since we prefer to maintain some flexibility as game conditions change. (After all, there could be more than 3500 years to go before this ends.)

Rather than risk the possibility that our teams might be working from different understandings of what has been agreed to, we've decided to defer accepting your tech offer for the moment while we try to clarify the agreement. Sir Ralph and I submitted the following proposal for ratification, and the vote thus far has come back strongly in support.

quote:

(1) Gathering Storm and Vox Controli hereby formally agree to give each other all technologies discovered, through whatever means, for the duration of this agreement.

(2) This agreement may be cancelled by either team under the following conditions. (a) The team wishing to cancel the agreement must provide a minimum of ten turns' notice. (b) Both sides, and especially the side initiating cancellation, are required to act in good faith to ensure that the treaty will be ended (or transitioned to some other arrangement) in a way that is equitable to both. Both agree not to manipulate the timing of tech discovery, tech trades with other parties, the ending of the deal itself, or any other factor in such a way as to obtain an unfair advantage over the other.


If this is acceptable to you, please re-offer the techs you offered this turn and we can pick up from there. We're expecting Writing in three turns, and can forward it to you then. (It would probably be better if you don't include Horseback Riding just yet, given the confusion that surrounded your getting it and the fact that our need for it is not urgent.) If this is too far from what you had in mind for you to consider it acceptable, we'll need to try to iron out the differences in what our teams had in mind.

In regard to suggestions for what tech you should research next, I'll have to address that issue separately. The situation is complex enough, especially with the possibility of trades in addition to what our two civs research ourselves, that we haven't yet reached a firm conclusion for what to suggest to you.

Sincerely,

The People of Gathering Storm
Nathan Barclay, Chief Economist

[Dis]

ok I have the game save. let me take a look at it.

I suggest we research something

[Beta]

Diss - I have the save too. Maybe we should go to a chat and discuss - or do we do it here?

[Dis]

already sent out

[Dis]

here is what I think. We should wait to get writing from GS and one of us research philosophy and the other code of laws

[Beta]

The FA and trade situation is complex. I will post a summary of the situation prior to the last game turn - as far as I can intepret.

In the meantime - this received from Legoland (via e-mail as my PM mailbox filled up. )

Your 'ugliness' is in refernce to me playing Ghengis Khan in the misfits game - and man is he uggggly.

This is the message:

My dear Sir,

The fact that I'm not approaching you with the well deserved "Your ugliness" title is because I want to discuss other issues than those related to the "Misfits" game. I hope you will forgive me for this lack of respect and will keep sending your beatifully exotic presents to my hot mother-in-law

As you know it, I'm a member of Legoland. It is true that I am not an ambassador to your team, so maybe you can take this as an "unofficial" approach. Nevertheless, if we agree I assure you the deal will become official.

A little background: we are a peaceful nation and our purpose is to build mutually beneficial relations with all the other civs. We are also not very far away from the great invention called "Map Making" and sending out galleys to explore the world. We would like to have official contact with your great civ, so we could trade techs and goods. However, to find you sooner rather than later, we would like to know where exactly you are. Hence the proposal: would you like to exchange your 3950 BC minimap with ours?

To prove that our intentions are good, I can assure the Voice that:
1. We won't show your minimap nor will we talk about it to any other team
2. We have no intentions to settle on your continent.
3, We have no intentions to attack you ( for now )
(we expect of course the same behaviour from your side)

If you want to show the content of this PM to your team to get their approval to the deal, feel free to do so (with the exception of the comments in regard to my mother-in-law, please! )

Cheers,
Tiberius
Military Architect of Legoland

[Dis]

same as before. mentionwe do look forward to diplomatic relations with them. But we are against mini-map trading until we recieve map making or research it.