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  • Mutual Protection Treaty with Legoland!

    yersterday evening Oliver and I have been chatting with Nimitz, Kloreep and Vondrack of Legoland. I wanted them to oppose GoW. To achieve this Oliver and I told them that we have the indication that GoW and Vox are forming an allaince to get control of the islands in the world. I told them that GS and Lego were the most likely victims. Lego was stunned and feared that soobner or later GoW would try to conquer them. The occupation of the island they recently discovered to the north of their main isle, Legos, was a first step. Please keep up this little overextended illusion.
    They asked if we would support them in a war with GoW. The result is that we are going to have a mutual protection pact with Legoland.
    THE TWO STRONGEST NATIONS IN THE WORLD HAVE ALLIED.
    I want to inform you too that the current deal has Royal approval, but the Despot and I wanted to inform you by this way. Please post any comments on this proposal, it's still open for discussion.

    The outcome of the negotiations.
    El tratado de defensa Hispano - Legolandico / Legoland - Spain Mutual Protection Treaty

    Article I
    Defenition of the territory

    The territory of Spain is defined as all land inside Spain's cultural borders and all lands south of Spain's northermost city.

    The territory of Legoland is defined as all land on Legos Island.



    Article II
    Redefinition of the territory

    Either party may propose to redefine their national territory and the change shall be effective upon the agreement of the other party.

    The definition of the territory of both parties may be changed if:
    1. New territories will be found, under the condition that these new territories are fully explored and unsettled by any other nation;
    2. New settlements, that are outside of the land defined in Article I, are founded;
    3. New territory, that is outside of the land defined in Article I, is accuired in any way;
    4. Territory, that is part of the land defined in Article I, is lost in any way.


    Article III
    Causes that activate the alliance
    1. If another nation settles on the land that is defined in Article I, while the party that claims this land has informed an official of the settling nation, that they claim those lands, the other party is supposed to declare war on the settling nation, if the party that claims these land requests this, unless the alliance can persuade the settling nation from either evacuating or handing the settlement over to the alliance member whose territory is occupied, or retreat in any other way.
    2. If any violation of the territorial integrity of the territory of either party, as defined in Article I, is being conducted, the other party is supposed to declare war on the atacking nation, if the attacked party requests this.



    Article IV
    Non-settlement ageement

    Neither party shall settle in the territoriy that the other party has claimed to be his as stated in Article I.



    Article V
    Duration of the Treaty

    The Treaty shall have a lenth of 30 turns. It shall be effective from 900 BC (turn nr. 84) and expire in 270 BC(on turn nr. 114).

    The Treaty can after this period be extended for an amount of turns that is about to be defined by the parties.

    The Treaty can only be extended upon the agreement of the both parties.



    Article VI
    Lapse of the Treaty

    This Treaty will immediately lapse if one of the parties does not adhere to the terms in this Treaty.



    Article VII
    Alterations on the Treaty

    Any statement in the Treaty can be altered, save for the Duration of the Treaty, as stated in Article V, the way of aid that the parties have agreed to provide in case the alliance is being activated, as stated in Article III and the lapse of the Treaty as stated in Article VI, upon the agreement of the both parties.




    I hereby assent with this Treaty and the terms in it.


    Augusto Togas, High King of Spain.






    Vondrack, President of Legoland.





    Aidun Cian the older,

    Lord Togas's interim diplomat to Legoland.
    Last edited by Aidun; March 29, 2003, 21:07.
    "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
    Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

  • #2
    Please discuss on which turn the treaty should start.

    Aidun
    "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
    Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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    • #3
      It should start on the turn we sign it.

      My thoughts: Yes, Legoland is an end-game competator of ours and one that we will have to fight or sabatage at some point down the road. HOWEVER, my primary concern is keeping us safe through the beginning of the middle ages and up to the period where we can build our famous Conquistadors. This treaty will help make that possible.

      My plans for Spain in the next 20-30 turns are for rapid expansion and continued military buildup. We have absolutely no plans to invade Legoland any time soon.

      --Togas
      Greatest Moments in ISDG chat:"(12/02/2003) <notyoueither> the moon is blue. hell is cold. quote me, but i agree with ET. "
      Member of the Mercenary Team in the Civ 4 Team Democracy Game.
      Former Consul for the Apolyton C3C Intersite Tournament Team.
      Heir to the lost throne of Spain of the Roleplay Team in the PTW Democracy Multiplayer Team Game.

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      • #4
        I agree with My King (being one with enough brains to realize that it is always best to back the crown).

        I have no problem at all with maintaining friendly relations with the Carthaginians. After all, we are blood brothers. I believe that the treaty should go into effect as soon as signed.

        Fernand de History Guy Calamari
        Empire growing,
        Pleasures flowing,
        Fortune smiles and so should you.

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        • #5
          I don’t know... I wonder if that squid in last night’s party was cooked all right, or if we didn’t have too much wine. Who are the Legos? Do they even exist? I look all over the map and I can’t find them at all.

          I would have been happer to hear that we have made a protection pact with the Men Who Have Babies. At least we know they exist. Our histories say they were married to the Amazon Women.

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          • #6
            *cough! gag! splutter!*

            I do not know any Amazon women!! I don't know where you might have gotten that idea!!

            Ummm...ahhhh...
            Empire growing,
            Pleasures flowing,
            Fortune smiles and so should you.

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            • #7
              Weren’t the Amazon Women on the side of the ancient barbarian kings who fought against us when Madrid was founded?

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              • #8
                Were they? As collector of history from antiquity, I can say that the only time Spain had anything to do with Amazons was when we conquered a tribe of them back in the days of Ghernicus.

                But since...there have been sightings. For example, Senora Yappala swears she saw one going into my house last...eerrr...you didn't hear that.

                Fernand de History Guy Calamari
                Empire growing,
                Pleasures flowing,
                Fortune smiles and so should you.

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                • #9
                  About the treaty with Legoland...

                  Aidun Cian the older
                  "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
                  Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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                  • #10
                    Quite right, old chap. You see...with this blasted anarchy going on...conversations easily get out of control.
                    Empire growing,
                    Pleasures flowing,
                    Fortune smiles and so should you.

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                    • #11
                      The non-settlement agreement has no consequences; it should end the treaty, otherwise, we could be obliged to declare war on a civ settling in Legoland, when at the same time Lego is settling on our part of the continent.
                      Statistical anomaly.
                      The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

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                      • #12
                        Good point Davout, I will include a consequence like if one of the parties does not adhere to the terms in this treaty, the treaty will immediately lapse (if that is gramatically right. English speakers?)

                        Aidun Cian the older,

                        Leader Togas's interim diplomat to Legoland
                        "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
                        Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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                        • #13
                          This treaty is very good news.

                          It is true that Lego is our major competitor in the long term, but for this to become true we must reach to end game first. They are natural allies, at least until the end of the Third Age.

                          And just an small correction. Is Hispano-Legolandico
                          "Never trust a man who puts your profit before his own profit." - Grand Nagus Zek, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, episode 11
                          "A communist is someone who has read Marx and Lenin. An anticommunist is someone who has understood Marx and Lenin." - Ronald Reagan (1911-2004)

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                          • #14
                            Interim Diplomat to Legoland? Are the positions switching around now that we have Monarchy, or was I just given the boot?

                            Anyway, its a good treaty.
                            "The Enrichment Center is required to inform you that you will be baked, and then there will be cake"
                            Former President, C3SPDGI

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                            • #15
                              The treaty has been sent last night at about 3:10 (GMT+1 summertime). Legoland is now debating about it. The treaty will be active from turn 84 until turn 114.

                              Aidun
                              "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
                              Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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