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[ruby_maser]

That wouldn't have been my first guess for where they are located.

I think Vox will be with them too since Lego still hasn't found neighbors (or so they say).

I know we are stuck with the position we have, but I cannot help but wonder what being more isolated would have done to our game. Of course, with the great jungle between us and our enemies (or friends ), we are at the same time isolated and connected.... a wonderful pet to have, I think.

I would think they will be both behind technologically and ahead in their intrenchment on their continent. It will be a monumental effort to win early in a game like this; I'm guessing this game is gonna take awhile.

[jdjdjd]

I think, based on this, that we are in the best position.

We are separated from Lux, GoW and ND by Jungle and some mountains. The whole Southern part of the island is ours for the taking. But, we have neighbors, who can assist us to advance technologically faster than those not on our continent.

GS, Lego and Vox appear to be on separate continents than us, and it appears that they may be on one, two or even three separate pieces of land. This will slow their tech growth, and also make it tough to attack us.

The first one to MapMaking will have a great advantage. We have a further edge in that we are closest to GS, and hopefully reach them first and make some trades. Throw in our close relationship with Lego and we are doing great.

[E_T]

That would mean that Vox would ba about due East of Lux and due North of GS. That is at least my guess.

Now the question becomes, who will we send our first boat to try to contact? Who would we LIKE to make contact with first?

I surmise that one of the 3: Vox; GS or Lego will try to build the Great Library, so that they will get quickly caught up to everybody else, when someone actually does make contact.

This will be interesting, for when contact is finally made.

E_T

[Hot Mustard]

I still think we would be foolish to not build the #2 city on the west coast, so that we can build a galley and make contact with Lego asap. With our proximity to GS, the #1 city on the east coast is in a similar situation. All the teams on our continent know the value of the making first contact - we have to take full advantage of our getting Writing first, of these great coastal city sites, and of our relations with GS and Lego in order to get the prize.

[History Guy]

Surely they are the most cultured and civilized of all races of men that we have yet encountered, though of course they are much more barbaric still then our own race of men. They certainly soar high above most anyone else in terms of diplomatic etiquette, Neu Demogyptica, surely, Glory of War, definitely, Lux Invicta, unquestionably. However, it seems to me that, unlike us (to whom such graces come naturally), they stress their courteousness, as though it comes not naturally to them, which is not a good thing. It is just as courteous and cultured to say, "Due to current events, I am obliged to tell you that we would like to present you with a small gift" as it is to say, "Due to current events, I am obliged to tell you that we are loathe to seize a portion of your most excellent lands."

We must tread carefully in all things.

Hernan de History Guy Calamari the Younger

[GodKing]

A message from DeepO and my response..... I gave him a little free-be in there, but I think it is something they already know. It can hopefully help our relations with them if they think we are free with some of our info.

GK

Dear GodKing,

After comparing our two minimaps, we're happy that we are relatively close. It should be able to meet each other in a reasonable time (a lot depends on whether our nations share the same continent, of course). You indicated before that you might be interested in setting up a meeting spot, does this offer still holds? And if so, do you have some protocol designed for that?

What we have done is send one of our exploring warriors to someplace near where the other civ's scout is at. We have typically traded our current mini maps, so it showed where the scouts were. Assuming we are on the same continent, we can arrange something like that. If not, we can either try and find some close land, or we will have to wait til map-making and send a boat.

We are at this moment discussing options here, and also to something else: Would you be interested to share if, and possibly whom you have contacted in-game yet? Again, this is just exploring options here, we are debating whether we would want it. But, in order to trade, it might proof to be important information to know of your trading partner.

In game we have met 2 civs. Two others are close enough that we expect to be able to meet up with them soon. Your civ we think is on another continent. OK that was a free-bee.

Do your civizilation have any established ground rules on this?

Not realy. We do things rather informally. We are not so interested in the beaurocracy, but in just playing the game and having fun doing so. All of our trades must be approved by our leader, Togas. We are acting out our government at each stage. As we are in despotisim, Togas is out despot. When we get to Monarchy, Togas (if still our leader) will be King, with a bunch of Dukes, Counts, & Barrons.

This week at work is a killer for me, so I will not be able to do much in the game until this weekend. Sorry.

Thanks.

GodKing

[Hot Mustard]

Originally posted by GodKing
In game we have met 2 civs. Two others are close enough that we expect to be able to meet up with them soon. Your civ we think is on another continent. OK that was a free-bee.

Any particular reason we're lying to them? (We've met three civs, and I don't think we'll meet anymore until Map Making.)

[GodKing]

GodKing,

What we have done is send one of our exploring warriors to someplace near where the other civ's scout is at. We have typically traded our current mini maps, so it showed where the scouts were. Assuming we are on the same continent, we can arrange something like that. If not, we can either try and find some close land, or we will have to wait til map-making and send a boat.

Well, I can tell you that we won't immediately be able to find you, at least not as long as we can't use boats. We have met with one other Civ in-game, which most likely you have contacted too.... Vox Controli. They are blocking our access to any further land exploration, and are not very friendly when it comes to negotiating. Our relation has been tense, because of implied aggresiveness from their side, which is doubly problematic as we would like to stay friendly with everyone for a while. We are a trading people... or at least would like to be, if it wasn't for our neighbours.

I assume you have met with them, so maybe you could meet at the spot where they are blocking us. If so, please leave us a note, and I'll send you a map. Otherwise, there is but one possibility, and that is getting to galleys fast.

As to exchanging current minimaps instead of opening maps: we were debating it. Allow me to ask this on our forum again, so that we could get to a fast resolution of this issue. We have a lot of ground explored, so it wouldn't really be in our advantage, but everything is discussable. One thing though, regardless of the outcome, absolute secrecy will be needed when it comes to that kind of information. We won't sell your information, and we would appreciate it if you don't do the same with ours. It's one thing to ask for someone's minimap as part of a trade, it certainly is something else when it comes to our own

All the best,
DeepO

DeepO;

Vox is the one team we have not met, nor have we been able to open relations with them in any significant way. We have met Lux and GoW. Lego and ... I cannot remember their name (ND?), are close to us and we expect to make contact with both of them soon IIRC.

You are on another continent. We have explored to our south and find an ocean between us. We have heard rumor that Vox is close enough to see, but is separated by water. Only rumor, so we have nothing to confirm with. Another civ is near Vox who is toward your NE we suspect.

We respect the right of secrecy. We are attempting to have good diplomatic relations with all civs. One cannot do that if one is a back stabber, liar, and so forth. Therefore, we regard anything said between civs as confidential. Any trades made between civs are confidential. That is why when asked earlier if we would trade another civs map - I had to answer no. Explicitly stated in the trades is the idea that it was between the two civs, and therefore not an option. The same holds true with your civ. If for example you tell me you have... oh say Code of Laws (love those goodie huts) and are willing to trade it, we will not tell any other civ that you are the one that gave it to us in exchange for Construction. That does not mean that we will not offer to sell it if it is to our advantage to do so, same as you would. But the knowledge of how we acquired said tech is nobodies business but ours. Does this make sense? The same holds true with maps at this stage. However, once we are in the later stages where map trading is possible, we expect world maps to go for lots, and territory maps to be the prime source of trading between civs. We hope to be able to trade territory maps at the appropriate time with most civs, but that is a ways away from now.

Current trades we would like to discuss:

Non aggression pacts: For X number (we have used 50) turns after our civs meet, there will be no aggression between our peoples.

Tech trades. Keep in mind what you have, and what you want. Once our civs meet up is more appropriate time to discuss such trades, but always keep in mind the what’s. I suspect we will try to send a boat (galley) your way soon. Trading current mini maps is a good way we can arrange this as we will know if there are land bridges we can send it across without sinking. We have also explored a lot of land, the most of any other civ that we have traded maps with, with perhaps the exception of Lego (who we traded to first and at that time were about equal to our area).

Wonder Agreements. You build a wonder, and we build another. Even if we don't get our wonder and have to waste the shields, we will not switch to your wonder. You do the same.
- Wonders we are potentially interested in are pyramids & Great Library.
- Wonders we are not interested in are Colossus & Lighthouse.
- The great wall, hanging gardens and oracle we are debating on.

Anything you might wish to trade or discuss. Sorry I have not been able to communicate as much as I would like lately, however that daemon RL keeps popping up. I hope the transition to nye leaving has not seriously effected your team much. Wishing you to come in second place….

GodKing
RolePlay Team ambassador to Gathering Storm.

dejon - I would expect us to make contact with Lego soon, even if it is via a galley, same with GS and Vox. It is all relative. I was not sure if we had met up with GoW.. or was that ND... I keep getting behind here I am afraid. I know they are on our continent, but just not if we have officially met or not.... my bad.

[E_T]

We have met: GoW; Lux & Neu Dem (ND).

We have NOT met: Lego; Vox & GS. We only have diplomatic communication (smoke huts) with them.

So, it would seem that Vox & GS are on the same Continent and that Lego is all by thier lonesome. I just hope (kind of) that Lego has some decent land to work with, as they are our pre-start allies.

There might still be some connection that is to the NE, behind Lux's territory, but it is highly unlikely.

E_T