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  • So what about the border agreement then?
    Is it gonna be broken by us, or by them?
    My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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    • Originally posted by astrologix
      I'm wondering if it is currently wise to settle that north area, because we risk to upset ND. They need lands to settle, because the north is mostly claimed by GoW. Doing so, maybe we will plunge ND into a war against us too quickly.
      And then letting them have those lands?!
      I think that would be a big mistake, sire...
      We should perhaps send the diplomat to them and discuss
      this old agreement first.
      My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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      • Originally posted by ThePlagueRat


        And then letting them have those lands?!
        I think that would be a big mistake, sire...
        We should perhaps send the diplomat to them and discuss
        this old agreement first.
        I've revised my position. I think we must settle that lake city, with the settler from Toledo.

        You are right, we should know what is the status of that old agreement, and certainly our diplomats should work it.
        Hosting and playing the Civ4BtS APT
        Ex-Organizador y jugador de Civ4BtS Progressive Games

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        • Very well Señor Generalissimo... and if we need the situation with ND to escalate, we might send a diplomat who can act kinda rude and press them out of that area. Diplomacy can often work slowly I guess, so we will have plenty of time to prepare before a war breaks out... Or we can renegotiate a border deal, if we want to pretend we are their friends.
          My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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          • If we take this lands we don't need to go to war with them. If the confrontation exists don't flee from it, but don't go for a gratuite confrontation.
            "Never trust a man who puts your profit before his own profit." - Grand Nagus Zek, Star Trek Deep Space Nine, episode 11
            "A communist is someone who has read Marx and Lenin. An anticommunist is someone who has understood Marx and Lenin." - Ronald Reagan (1911-2004)

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            • There is not settlement agreement. We proposed to give them the North Valley, they never agreed to it. This was prior to Lux's destruction. Now that Lux is gone they seem to be eyeing all of Old Luxia. We could move into this area, but we should be warry to not move too quickly into an area we can't protect ... and spread our defenses thinly along the border.

              --Togas
              Greatest Moments in ISDG chat:"(12/02/2003) <notyoueither> the moon is blue. hell is cold. quote me, but i agree with ET. "
              Member of the Mercenary Team in the Civ 4 Team Democracy Game.
              Former Consul for the Apolyton C3C Intersite Tournament Team.
              Heir to the lost throne of Spain of the Roleplay Team in the PTW Democracy Multiplayer Team Game.

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              • Proposed City Sites

                I'm making this proposal in hopes that other's will make their propsals also. More ideas mean a better chances for Spain to come out on top.

                The way I see it, there are many tiles already overlapping. But you don't need many cities to over size 20 either, so that's not a bad thing since many bonus tiles can be switched around to give Spain the best use of it's total population.

                In my image, I can see moving city "1" SE one tile and City "2" NE or E one tile also.

                If you have some ideas put them up here. Don't be shy.

                Also Togas has a map of proposed sites here , just scroll down to the last pic, you'll see it.

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                • Looks sensible to me.

                  We already have settlers on the way to 6, X, and 1, iirc.

                  For the rest I would recommend the following order of settlement: 3,5,7,8,9,4,2.

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                  • Whole World Map

                    Here'a a dousy of a Map that we just obtained from GoW!!

                    I made it into a "Whole World Map"

                    Here's a 800 x 400 picture

                    Here's a link for theBig Moma

                    Last edited by BigFree; May 23, 2003, 02:26.

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                    • Updated Map

                      This is the updated cities layout map, following the proposal of our King Togas.



                      The cities have been tagged following the chronological order of foundation, it is only a suggestion in the case of the ones yet to come (the idea is colonizing the coast first and then filling the gaps, except for cities 12 & 13).

                      (#) (Name)
                      --- -------------
                      12 Mérida
                      13 Valladolid
                      14 Santander
                      15 Murcia
                      16 Cádiz
                      17 Lisboa
                      18 Córdoba
                      19 Albacete
                      20 San Sebastián

                      Some thoughts:

                      City #12 connects Sevilla to our territory. It is in a good place to grow and maybe could supply one or two settlers to the south...

                      City #13 could be N of this current position, between the mountain and the silk. It would give us control over the jungle, but at cost of more distance to Pamplona and less production/growth until the jungle is cleared.

                      City #18 is a good place to build the Forbbiden Palace.
                      Last edited by Fibrizzo; June 7, 2003, 20:13.

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                      • Hmm, I tought we planned to build the FP on the capitol of one of our enemies...
                        Señor Nuclearis Winterius the III,
                        Diplomat with the Voxians, and also
                        Señor Pablo Winterius, missionary Bishop and Archbishop of the Roleplay team

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                        • Good job, Fibrizzo !
                          Hosting and playing the Civ4BtS APT
                          Ex-Organizador y jugador de Civ4BtS Progressive Games

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                          • Painting of Santiago

                            As I could not find a suitable thread to post it, I post it here... this is the real , full painting of Santiago, as most of the Painters only paint governamental buildings and rich people´s houses... here is it, with even the slums and all.

                            Hope you guys enjoy it.
                            Nuclear Winter
                            Last edited by Nuclear Winter; June 10, 2003, 13:35.
                            Señor Nuclearis Winterius the III,
                            Diplomat with the Voxians, and also
                            Señor Pablo Winterius, missionary Bishop and Archbishop of the Roleplay team

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                            • Nice painting. Is it a Salvador Dali?

                              ooc:
                              Btw, I find it alarming that these expansion plans allowed ND to settle the whole valley in the north. We could have taken both the north and the south... Now it's too late.
                              My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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                              • Here is a portrait of a Spanish princess.
                                Enjoy!

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                                Last edited by ThePlagueRat; June 10, 2003, 14:46.
                                My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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