The Map Room

[LzPrst]

READNOW! (feb02)

i need to know what city #3's final location is. coastal over the river on the center silk or elsewhere

[Togas]

Re: READNOW! (feb02)

Originally posted by LzPrst
i need to know what city #3's final location is. coastal over the river on the center silk or elsewhere

It will be build on the silk on the "3?" spot.

--Togas

[LzPrst]

I'm assuming there arent any other cities in\on the jungle. btw, does anyone know how to use photoshop?
HELP!!!

[Togas]

For now, just use the most recent map by Arnelos. Use site 3? and 1? and focus mostly on the defenses of Cow Valley.

I don't have photoshop, just the lame windows paint program, so I often leave such tasks to Arnelos and E_T to handle. However, in the windows paint program I can at least draw lines and make crude squares to denote where cities are. Keep it as simple and clear as you can.

--Togas

[LzPrst]

I realized that my plan was somewhat...ambitious, on the border of unrealistic actually, (ooc i'm sure thats what the emperor of china thought some centuries ago... ooc) so I'll draw up another more practical set of fortifications.

OOC I dont think I have photoshop here so it might have to be done in paint... also I have no way of uploading it (though I might get one, meanwhilst if anyone could receive the finished product and put it up that would be sweet) OOC

[E_T]

One more City Plan

I've decided to see what kind of plan would come up, it the cities were packed a bit closer together. Here is the map:



Some of the cities are still the same distance as before, but I packed a few more cities into the interior and in the jungle area. THere is a fair amount of overlap, but it will allow us to have some fairly decent sized cities while keeping our trade values up.

Pros: More Cities, More Trade, better unit bandwidth, more WF assignment variety

Cons: Size limit problems with some of the cities when approching size 12 and even passing it. WF assignment limitations, especially at the larger sizes with some cities not able to grow that well, at least until we get Railroads.

[EDIT]
On the spot that is marked with the T, I was thinking about building a temporary city, so that we could have faster access to the Iron. this will be abandoned when the next closest city is able to get a temple up and the boarders expand.
[/EDIT]

Letus Eta Tamali

[ThePlagueRat]

This is one of the better suggestions E_T.
The cons will be overshadowed by the pros.
We shouldn't worry about this moderate tile-overlapping.

'Perfect' large, cities does not neccessary mean victory.
Great production (and trade) capabilities in many cities will
gives more advantages.

[ruby_maser]

Just keep #18 away from my flood plains

[E_T]

Originally posted by ruby_maser
Just keep #18 away from my flood plains

OOpsee!! the number 18 is a mistake!! there is no city there.....

I'll try to fix it and repost it, but I'll be fairly busy today.

E_T

[ThePlagueRat]

To get really powerful, we should compress some of the cities even more. Especially on the east coast and the west coast. (e.g. city #4 one tile N, and #5 two tiles NE = Room for one more in the south, and so on.)

Then we would not have the largest size potential, as in Arnelos
initial plans, but we could get more cities than anyone else, and that would mean Spanish superiority...

[Arnelos]

Wow... talk about overlap

E_T,

Generally I don't mind overlap, but this latest plans seems to take it a bit too far. Just my thoughts on the subject, though.

[Arnelos]

Togas has asked me to repost this into this thread:

[Aidun]

Wow, this is great work, Arnelos, but shouldn't Castillia be a bit smaller and Catalonia a bit larger.
I propose to add the desert terrain with the surrounding hills that lie close to Navarro and Valencia to Catalonia.

Aidun Cian the Older

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by Aidun
Wow, this is great work, Arnelos, but shouldn't Castillia be a bit smaller and Catalonia a bit larger.
I propose to add the desert terrain with the surrounding hills that lie close to Navarro and Valencia to Catalonia.

Ideally, Aragon would be larger... but a number of things were driven by the land we were given (different from RL Spain) and the various city names. Since I wanted to keep the major cities in their proper regions, even if this made the SIZE of the region out of proportion (such as with Castile), it meant that certain regions are larger and others are smaller than they are in RL.

The problem is that if you expand Catalonia, you don't have additional Catalonian cities that truly be considered to the size and importance of Toledo or Salamanca in Castile (which they would replace). Likewise for some of the other regions... the alternative of placing Toledo or Salamanca inside Catalonia or another region just seemed even more out-of-place to me than having the size of Castile be larger

[Aidun]

You are right. When i'ts finished I'll try to draw a map on parchment, but therefore we need to have mapmaking first.

Aidun