Discussion on our Civ Choice

[History Guy]

Astrologix-- This problem of other civilizations not providing us envoys has bothered me also. In that case, there is really nothing we can do. We've simply lost out.

[ruby_maser]

sorry thing is that, we will not know that they have communications with the builders unless they are willing to divulge the info. The diplomacy screens in MP will not allow you to see another humans tradeable goods...
now that I think about it, I don't if that is the way diplomacy is handled in PBEM at all. It may be handled through PM's instead and either way, we will be in the dark.

[OliverFA]

Wow! I am a couple of days out and find that. Really nice!

Great leader Togas, I think that the "tie story" that you have told to the builder is a very smart one. Hey it seems that diplomacy is starting to work!

The research pact is a really good thing. Let's say that the other teams don't have to know we have such pact with the Builders. They can suspect, but they won't know for sure. I'm sure that the Builder will agree to not tell them So we'll just try to gain contact with them as soon as posible and that's all.

About the civ pick. Being an authentic spaniard this is OK with me

[MrWhereItsAt]

This is seriously worrying.... I am neither a signed up member of this team (nor any others), nor have I been officially added to any team's member lists, yet here I am. Although this poll is closed I could spy for other teams, and as much as the idea of being a spy, a double, triple, x-tuple agent appeals to me, I feel I should let you guys know there is still a bug in the private forums function.

[mrmitchell]

Wow...how did you get in here MrWIA?

You must vow to keep silence of what you have read,MWIA, for all time, until the very Bob is covered with fire on every square millimeter (er, roleplaying, excuse me, cubit) and every square cubit is covered with ice at the same time.

If you do not, we will find you. Count on it.

[MrWhereItsAt]

It's alright, mrmitchell - I want to definitely join the Roleplay team, as I have heard word that Spain is the Civ choice. however, I am not yet a member, and I have no mod powers any more, and yet again I am here. Hmm...

[ruby_maser]

I challenge Markos to challenge us again to get into a forum that we are not supposed to

who am I kidding, I'm sure its just a glitch in the matrix

[Togas]

Members of the Roleplay team. We have officially come to an agreement with Legoland about Carthage. Here is the wording of the agreement:

We, the Roleplay team, hereby promise that we will give the Legoland team the civilization of Carthage and we will cooperate with research (each team researching different paths and then trading).

In exchange, Legoland promises to not declare war on or join in any war against the Roleplay Civilization at any time prior to 1000 AD, to give the Roleplay Civilization "Most Favored Nation" trade status (which shall include selling us techs at a lower price than any other civ), and cooperate with research as explained above.

Both teams also pledge to try to maintain good relations throughout the game and to attempt to cooperate for the mutual protection and success of our civilizations.

I also asked them to keep the agreement a secret between us. Hopefully they will live up to that part as well. Hopefully, so shall we.

Anyhow, Spain is official. We "gave" Carthage to the Builders after much discussion, etc, etc. We now need to get our team icon finalized and continue our Spanish strategy.

--Togas

[ruby_maser]

glad to hear it went over well. though I was skeptical to say the least, it seems that simply trying has netted us the ability to research at (hopefully) twice the rate as our enemies.

perhaps since this handshake alliance has been forged, we might want to know where Legoland sees itself concerning its research rate. I imagine it will be decent considering that most human vs human competition will probably limit the degree to which you can just buy techs, but it might be nice to coordinate that.

[Arnelos]

I LOVE the wording that agreement... we have an ally in out back pocket that the warmonger teams won't NECESSARILY know about for at least a little while.... assuming (for a moment) that Legoland ends up anywhere near to us (crossing fingers...), the tech-sharing agreement could be extremely powerful for both of us... I really like this.

[mrmitchell]

So, now we are Spam. Am I correct?

This team member wants more in the deal
just kidding

[astrologix]

This agreement is great ! Congratulations !

[ThePlagueRat]

This is good. We need to follow up this agreement.
That would serve us well... But we should not lick their backs.
Culturally and colonizationally, we should informally compete with everyone incl. them.

[Hot Mustard]

I think that is a great agreement, and a good deal for a civ we weren't 100% on anyway. Good job Togas!

However, I will point out that just because they're Legoland and not The Glory of War, doesn't mean they're any less likely to backstab us or make phony deals to misplace our trust.

Now that we finally have our civ choice, I'm off to write my Spanish character bio!

[Arnelos]

Nimitz is one of my deputies as FAM in the single-player DG... we've been PMing back and forth about FAM, but also (in two messages) about how great this agreement is for both Legoland and the Roleplay team... things are looking good with Legoland.

Now we need to cultivate more friends...