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  • What about a minigame set for a FEUDAL WAR!!! ?

    Hello all,
    I had this idea during a chat today with Togas, E_T1, Aidun and BigFree (and, of course, me). We would make a minigame of Spain with the topic on Feuds developing and eventualy killing each other for total political supremacy (ok, armies at MAdrid is not a ´´political´´ thing, but anyway...)
    Togas is going to provide me with the copy of Spain´s map,I´ll do the city placing and modding... so here we are.. if this gets to work then i´ll post a more definitive thread or such, but untill then, Gimme all your Ideas and toughts and hints and little charms made of Snakeskin and leather...
    and please , no ´´Give my feud some Siphahi! I have just hired them fromold luxia!´´, wait, we could put some mercenaries indeed...

    ADDED! Feel free to modify or edit this post!

    The Factions:

    The Togas Clan
    Ind + Rel
    Royal Blue (Persian)
    UU: Heavy Warhorse 5/3/2 (replace knights)

    The Dejon Clan
    Mil + Com
    Dark Red (Rust)
    UU: Chargers 4/2/2 (replace mid inf)

    The Calamari Clan
    Rel + Com
    color
    UU

    The Maser Clan
    Exp + Mil
    not pink
    UU: Warbringer 1/4/1 pikeman replacement

    The Libre Clan
    Mil + Ind
    Black
    UU: Berserker 6/2/1 amph (replaces longbowman)

    The Winterus Clan
    traits
    color
    UU

    The Mitchell Clan
    Ind + Sci
    not pink
    UU: Minstrel Dudes 2/1/3 (replaces archers)

    The Church (Aidun)
    Rel + Sci
    White or Yellow
    UU: Swiss Guard 1/4/1 (replaces pikemen)
    Last edited by ruby_maser; May 28, 2003, 12:43.
    Señor Nuclearis Winterius the III,
    Diplomat with the Voxians, and also
    Señor Pablo Winterius, missionary Bishop and Archbishop of the Roleplay team

  • #2
    I am willing to join the game, but I recently updated my PTW to 1.21 f and it couldn't recognise the CD anymore. I don't know what causes this problem, but one thing is clear: I can't play any game above version 1.01 f.
    The patch I installed was the American patch I downloaded from www.civ3.com.


    Nuclear Winter,

    Make sure there are enough resources so that we needn't to kill a few players before the middle ages and we can trade a lot.

    Another thing is that I would like to play it in DyP, but that depends on what the others want.

    Aidun
    "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
    Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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    • #3
      I sent Nuc a map of Spain that I made. I think it might be fun to expand that map to include land outside of Spain for us to conquer, but the goal would be to "unite" all of the Spainish factions into one nation and be the King of Spain.

      Start the game off in the middle ages and use a Mod like DyP to have an extended game in the middle ages.

      The question becomes ... what would the factions be? Perhaps it depends on how many people are interested in playing the game

      --Togas
      Greatest Moments in ISDG chat:"(12/02/2003) <notyoueither> the moon is blue. hell is cold. quote me, but i agree with ET. "
      Member of the Mercenary Team in the Civ 4 Team Democracy Game.
      Former Consul for the Apolyton C3C Intersite Tournament Team.
      Heir to the lost throne of Spain of the Roleplay Team in the PTW Democracy Multiplayer Team Game.

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      • #4
        Yes Indeed, I need a list of people.
        Also, I will need to draw the territory of each dukedom so that the owner can choose to replace the city in the begining (but inside the perimiter of the Dukedom!!!). I will mod the map acordingly and I am considering doing some extra modifications for the factions, as well as unit changings... and, of course, I´d need speacial rules for diplomacy and Trade. This means any idea is highly required.
        Nuclear Winter
        Señor Nuclearis Winterius the III,
        Diplomat with the Voxians, and also
        Señor Pablo Winterius, missionary Bishop and Archbishop of the Roleplay team

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        • #5
          I think the map should be enlarged and some small towns should be added so the duchies have more than one city.

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          • #6
            This sounds like fun.

            Include a Dejon family warmongering clan please.

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            • #7
              Positive!
              In fact each Duke will have a province (if it goes like I mean it to, that is).
              I will try to develop a questionary for all to answer regarding the Provinces , soa s to decide some special factors, UU and such...
              Have a nice day, and keep showing interest (or else the project may come to an abrupt end ...
              Señor Nuclearis Winterius the III,
              Diplomat with the Voxians, and also
              Señor Pablo Winterius, missionary Bishop and Archbishop of the Roleplay team

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              • #8
                I would be interested in this type of game. Of course, I would hope that the start positions could be fairly balanced.

                Señor NW, how do you envision the start to go? Would it be where the players start with nothing but the knowledge that would be required to play at the Middle Ages level? Or would cities already be layed out? Or would the player begin with several settlers to speed up REX? Just curious...
                "The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country." -- Abraham Lincoln

                "Generations to come will scarce believe that such a one as this ever, in flesh and blood, walked upon this earth." -- Albert Einstein, in regards to Mohandis Gandhi

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                • #9
                  OK , so far so good, ideas are poping around like goodiehuts! Keep ´em coming!
                  I have liked the idea of Aidun to create 2 new city improvements: Citadel and Castle. Citadel Is already placed, it increases city defense by 50 % and bombardment defense by 4 and appearsafter researching construction. Castle is not in already, because I was thinking of making it a smal wonder as, feudal properties had only one huge castle in the Duke´s property, and lesser defenses on smaller ones (like walls and the like). If done like this, the castle would give something like a 75% bonus to defence (Small wonder or not it is planned to appear at engeneering) and a bombardment defense of 2 ( I have tought also of making it require some resource, like stone or the likes of it, to show the enormous amounts of stone required, and also to incentivate cooperation between the lords, at least to some extent). Though many are thinking ´´what the hell is this maniac doing? Does he wants cities that are impossible to invade?´´I want to say that the objective is a more medieval war, were you are obliged to bombard the enemy like a madman before attacking (read my words: long sieges) so I am thinking on improving catapults and instaling trebuches... also I am considering some extra thousand of medieval units... I will put extra resources so that trade can be intense and so that we are not stuck with low production... also plenty of heathens to conquer and If I manage to suceed , we will have new types of specialists for certain clans , more sea units... and whatever our coletive minds create!
                  Have a nice day,
                  Nuclear Winter
                  BTW, I am accepting sugestions for wonders... yes we will have customized wonders
                  Señor Nuclearis Winterius the III,
                  Diplomat with the Voxians, and also
                  Señor Pablo Winterius, missionary Bishop and Archbishop of the Roleplay team

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                  • #10
                    Nuc, it doesn't appear that I can participate until Summer, perhaps. My PC needs to go into the shop in the next two weeks for repairs...

                    But, you can have control of the Calamarquists if you want. Our special unit? The Kraken...the master of the seas...
                    Empire growing,
                    Pleasures flowing,
                    Fortune smiles and so should you.

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                    • #11
                      Count me in!

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                      • #12
                        I was already in, but now I like it iven more so again: count me in

                        Nuc, perhaps you should raise the amount of food people eat so that the additional cities that are founded keep being small villages. The main city can than reallt funcion like a capital. Eventually you can give the castle a food bonus.
                        I like the introduction of stone in the game. What about these additional recourses?
                        Oranges as luxury , Spain is the country of the oranges.
                        Wood as strategic recource, not all wood is suitable for building and the making of weaponry.
                        Leather as strategic recource.
                        Cotton and wool as luxuries.

                        Aidun
                        "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
                        Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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                        • #13
                          Well then,
                          A breakthrough ahs been achieved! I figured out how to make mostly everything be team exclusive.... here goes the Squid Merchants, who are (at least in this test) exclusive of the Calamari Clan,appearing with a tech that has no age at all (thus being invisible ) and having this tech being ceeded to the team at the beggining...
                          [edit]Nevermind the screenshot, it showed something that took me lots of work to do but that ain´t that important.[edit]

                          I need feedback people! For Holy God´s mercy!
                          Ideas!!!!!!
                          There are some balance questions that I would like to talk to you people about, so If possible, please hang around in the Undernet room channel #civ3rp Migros ... I shall eventually appear...
                          Have a nice day.
                          Ah, before you leave,
                          this is the edited list of barbarian names, those are very few, (the list requires 76 different names....)so basically for now the others are copyed and pasted... I´d like idea for naems of other barbarian bands (I am probably renaming ´´tribes´´ for ´´bands´´ in the game so that it sounds better[you see, Bandits do not form tribes...])
                          The List:
                          Saracen
                          Pagan
                          Viking
                          Norman
                          Nomad
                          Mongol
                          Magyar
                          Bulgar
                          Rebel
                          Bandit
                          Thiefling
                          Herectic
                          Heathen
                          Landless Knights
                          Abucacan

                          Until later,
                          Nuclear Winter
                          Last edited by Nuclear Winter; May 20, 2003, 13:10.
                          Señor Nuclearis Winterius the III,
                          Diplomat with the Voxians, and also
                          Señor Pablo Winterius, missionary Bishop and Archbishop of the Roleplay team

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                          • #14
                            I'm not sure what the screenshot is, though. Can you please explain what it's showing us?

                            I think you first need to develop the FACTIONS, perhaps have each of the players name their factions, and name their traits. However, it might be easier for us to simply pick current civs and rename them than to try to make up new techs and UUs for every faction.

                            --Togas
                            Greatest Moments in ISDG chat:"(12/02/2003) <notyoueither> the moon is blue. hell is cold. quote me, but i agree with ET. "
                            Member of the Mercenary Team in the Civ 4 Team Democracy Game.
                            Former Consul for the Apolyton C3C Intersite Tournament Team.
                            Heir to the lost throne of Spain of the Roleplay Team in the PTW Democracy Multiplayer Team Game.

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                            • #15
                              Well Togas, I am also working in that direction, but I have to start doing something, and as almost no one gave ideas on what they want I am delaying that part a little, working with those who gave me ideas for their fiefs .
                              As for teh factions, I am going to make them dukedoms or fiefs, as the objective of this is to simulate medieval strugles who happened in the inside of kingdoms. I will add one or two extra techs to certain factions who will have weaker UU´s and mostly get units (both for UU´s and for extra ones)from existing mods.

                              Anyway keep sending ideas,
                              Nuc
                              Señor Nuclearis Winterius the III,
                              Diplomat with the Voxians, and also
                              Señor Pablo Winterius, missionary Bishop and Archbishop of the Roleplay team

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