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  • #16
    Coming from me this will sound strange, but even "warmongers" must learn to compramise.

    1) Tell GoW that we have backed out of our deal with RP for HBR.-We can't afford to risk angering our strong neighbors to the North.

    2) Explain our situation to RP, emphasizing that someone within their organization may be a traitor, and as such, we cannot afford to risk strife between us and GoW. Also, leave open our friendship and future exchanges.

    RP will understand and we may find some other way of dealing with them. We need to be concilliatory to GoW, who is rightfully flexing their muscles, while we must show restraint.
    "If you're not having fun, then you're losing the game."-Copyright Warrior Poet 11/18/2002 "No plan survives first contact with the enemy."-Tsun Tzu -Don't know when B.C.

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    • #17
      In effect, you chose option c). Actually I am more in favour of option b).
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      • #18
        True, but GoW and NDE are growing concerns in the back of my mind...they need to be placated.
        "If you're not having fun, then you're losing the game."-Copyright Warrior Poet 11/18/2002 "No plan survives first contact with the enemy."-Tsun Tzu -Don't know when B.C.

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        • #19
          This is what I intend to send to GhengisFarb of GoW:

          Hello GhengisFarb, Glorious Warmonger,

          I would like to speak to you about the conversation we had not long ago. You surprised me with some of the things you said, especially about the HBR trade with RP. I will outline the course of events here:

          a) First, we agreed not to trade HBR to RP, unless you wouldn't trade it to them. This was written in an agreement and sent to you.

          b) You sent back the agreement, but without the sentence '...unless GoW does not trade it to RP', to Trip. It wasn't noticed by us that you had suddenly changed the text, so we did not reply and it was our opinion that the text I descibed under a) was agreed upon.

          c) We got a message from RP stating that the deal GoW-RP was off.

          d) We concluded, from c) and the text from a), that it was now open to us to offer RP a trade.

          e) You contacted me and said that we had broken a treaty.


          Let me know if I give a rightful description of the events.


          Before I comment on this, let me clearly point out that Lux values to be open and honest. We also do not want some short-term advantage if this means losing you as a strategic partner. Especially now that relations are becoming tense on this continent.

          I have also asked a representative of RP to testify what I said.


          Fact 1: we have not traded HBR to RP yet, because we want to sort things out with you first.
          Fact 2: we feel that if you do not trade HBR to RP, ND or some other Civ will. Not in 20 turns, but sooner than that. Our window of opportunity is closing.
          Fact 3: we offer you =again= room to trade HBR to RP. If you cannot work this deal out, however, we'd rather be the civ trading HBR to them, and not ND. Shall we say we want clarity in two turns from now?


          Let me know how you and your people feel about this.


          Then, another thing. You asked in our chat whether we have been amassing troops. Well, we fear that ND is the aggressive civ, so we are prepared to defend ourselves if they attack. However, we will not make an attack ourselves. We value peace above all.
          I would like to know your thoughts on this situation as well, because if ND and Lux go to war eventually, GoW might be drawn in. What is your opinion of the ND civ?


          I hope we can resolve this matter soon. I also hope to meet you on #Apolyton channel in the next few days!

          BigFurryMonster
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          • #20
            This is good, very pc, and precise!
            "If you're not having fun, then you're losing the game."-Copyright Warrior Poet 11/18/2002 "No plan survives first contact with the enemy."-Tsun Tzu -Don't know when B.C.

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            • #21
              Thanks - but what do you mean by 'pc' ?
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              • #22
                Political correct
                "If you're not having fun, then you're losing the game."-Copyright Warrior Poet 11/18/2002 "No plan survives first contact with the enemy."-Tsun Tzu -Don't know when B.C.

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                • #23
                  For not being a native english-speaker, BFM sure is good with the language.

                  Where did GoW talk about us massing troops though? I remember telling GF that we saw NDE massing troops at our border, but I don't remember him saying anything about us massing troops...

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                  • #24
                    Thanks :-)

                    I was referring to Ghengis' Q:

                    Your team has built up its units for a war, correct?
                    I suppose I can send the message above, then?
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                    • #25
                      "If you're not having fun, then you're losing the game."-Copyright Warrior Poet 11/18/2002 "No plan survives first contact with the enemy."-Tsun Tzu -Don't know when B.C.

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                      • #26
                        Message sent.

                        Either they'll come to their senses, or things will get of hand.

                        Or something in between. We'll see.
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                        • #27
                          Let's hope they don't do anything rash.

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                          • #28
                            If they're all about 'honor' as they say, then this should end up fine with a bit of discussion.

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                            • #29
                              Could someone find out who the war minister is in GoW and RP, or rather, who is holding a similar position.
                              "If you're not having fun, then you're losing the game."-Copyright Warrior Poet 11/18/2002 "No plan survives first contact with the enemy."-Tsun Tzu -Don't know when B.C.

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                              • #30
                                Sure. Why? You mean that if we're getting PMs from them, it means trouble? Or are you going to contact them to set up an attack plan ..? If so, call it a Defense Plan, because I just claimed that we're a very peaceful nation :-)
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