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[Theseus]

Shouldn't we wait one turn before disclosing Ramses?

[DeepO]

why? Vox can't help it anyway, and I doubt that they'll change their plans based on us getting a leader.

Having lost 6 units is something else, though...

DeepO

[Velociryx]

Personally, I don't think we should announce a thing. Just rush the wonder and let that be our "announcement"

Of course, the one problem we'll have with this plan of radio silence is that I'd imagine it too, will be seen as further signs of our "arrogance and elitism"

"See!? Look at snooty ol' GS.....Vox gives out their Daily War Reports in the spirit of Role Playing, and all we get from GS is stony silence!"

Of course, truly, it's a case of no matter what we do, someone will misread it.

-=Vel=-

[Arrian]

Good stories, guys.

I think we should post 'em... just as Vox is about to get the turn.

-Arrian

[DeepO]

Two different story lines certainly are going to confuse the rest, so that's okay. They can't complain we don't give enough info now, they can even pick which information minister they like most

DeepO

[alva]

Hmm, though the wonder mentioning should only be done when we actually got it..
We came close making fools of ourselves when going public on the Pyramids, let's not do that again

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Velociryx
Personally, I don't think we should announce a thing. Just rush the wonder and let that be our "announcement"

Of course, the one problem we'll have with this plan of radio silence is that I'd imagine it too, will be seen as further signs of our "arrogance and elitism"

"See!? Look at snooty ol' GS.....Vox gives out their Daily War Reports in the spirit of Role Playing, and all we get from GS is stony silence!"

Of course, truly, it's a case of no matter what we do, someone will misread it.

-=Vel=-

I don't agree with the no matter what we do bit.

Caesar knew, the secret is in the bread and circuses. Most of the people in this game are in it for fun. Our keeping to ourselves would only reinforce the image that some have that we do not want to participate 'with them' but only 'against them'.

I would favour seeing both published. They are different views of the same events, and I sense FP has sequels in mind.

A chicken reference can be worked in later in the thread after some conversation among others. I think a passing comment would do the trick. Something along the lines of the exact disposition and use of the Storm Chickens being a state secret.

[FrustratedPoet]

Originally posted by notyoueither
I sense FP has sequels in mind.

The force is strong with this one.

[Theseus]

I also favor publishing both. It's fun, and nothing untoward is disclosed.

Storm Chickens and (bananas ) should be part of all trash talk.

[notyoueither]

We need to get something out there.

Vox has the turn.

[Aeson]

I went ahead and posted a slightly revised version.

I think you should post your's too FP (as noted, keeping Hurricane's location as indefinite as possible). I look forward to reading the second part!

[alva]

Hmm, good point NYE..
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Ha, finally, Theseus found himself an avatar
Good, makes it easier to spot your posts
Come on Arrian, you too now

[FrustratedPoet]

I've posted my story in Aeson's thread.

[Velociryx]

Let me clarify then. What I mean is.....the other teams can "just" role play, or "just" trash talk, but when we do so, we must tread very carefully and measure each and every thing we say. This is so because, rightly or wrongly, we are seen as the arrogant team. If something we can can be misconstrued and given an arrogant slant, it seems it will be. The only truly safe course I've seen so far is our self-depreciating humor, which seems to be greeted warmly enough. 'bout everything else tho, and it's "there they go again".

Having just read Aeson's post, and FP's follow-up, I am hopeful that we can turn the tide of popular opinion, but it won't be easy, and it won't be overnight.

-=Vel=-

[notyoueither]

You have the essence of most of it, Vel.

There is one other element though. Most of the players, and certainly leaders, of other teams are familiar with each other from the SPDG. That gives them a leg up in many matters.

Aside from that, what has penalised us first is who many of us are. You need not feel sorry, but your name intimidates the hell out of many of our opponents. Aeson, Theseus, Sir Ralph, Arrian, nbarclay, alexman, DeepO, etc, etc, reinforce any complexes that may be out there.

Second, we have penalised ourselves. Comments about Voxidiots or some such have seeped out to the public forums from time to time. Comments about the inferiority of others, or the superiority of 'us' may have little effect when made by unknowns, or those not known for prowess. However, when they come from people well respected for ability they chafe mightily on many people. McEnroe or Ali, anyone?

Those are some of the reasons that I feel positive communication, such as Aeson's and FPs stories are important for us. We are participating. Far from being arrogant, we belittle the great leader. It is the charioteer who is truely the hero. It is not us who did the good thing. It is the RNG that elevated a jelly donut seeker to the exalted status of a great leader.

The course of any good champion to follow... Humility. Friendly, and humble. Self-depreciating to some is simply humble to others. It is not so much calling ourselves down, as participating, granting that others have good things going for them, and have done well that will turn this tide. Well, that and realising that Vox did catch us with our pants down, and that this still is far from a notch in our victory belt.