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Nathan, Re: EuroPBEM deal of 40 turns:
1) the comparison is a bit flawed, as I tried to avoid exactly that. I tried to give the incentive to them, if they want to keep peace for as long as the ancient age lasts they can, it's up to them. If they don't want that security, they can too, by cashing in their jokers fast... as they can choose when they end our non-aggresion commitment over the next 0-80 turns, they should feel pretty secure for the next 40 or so turns. And nothing says the deal needs to end there, by that time, other deals can be negotiated, or they could see it coming, and prepare for war.
2) In the Euro PBEM game, I would not do it under those conditions. I couldn't care less if you agree to attack me right now, you can't force me one bit (you can't even attack my spears with anything other then an archer), so a non-agression deal is worthless. If, however, you would be willing to, let's say, 1000 gold + 40-turn non-aggression, we'd be talking, and I'll gladly retreat my spears. But I don't think you would be willing to do that, because 1000 gold makes me a risk to your own security, certainly once you move closer to me. I don't commit to 40 turns non-aggression... 1000 gold equals 25 swords... get the picture?
You wouldn't be able to get a deal on techs, by the way, as for the moment I've got all - or am about to get all - military techs I need to deal with Nathan and possible bold invasions from the North. I couldn't care less that I'm behind in comparison to you
DeepO
1) the comparison is a bit flawed, as I tried to avoid exactly that. I tried to give the incentive to them, if they want to keep peace for as long as the ancient age lasts they can, it's up to them. If they don't want that security, they can too, by cashing in their jokers fast... as they can choose when they end our non-aggresion commitment over the next 0-80 turns, they should feel pretty secure for the next 40 or so turns. And nothing says the deal needs to end there, by that time, other deals can be negotiated, or they could see it coming, and prepare for war.
2) In the Euro PBEM game, I would not do it under those conditions. I couldn't care less if you agree to attack me right now, you can't force me one bit (you can't even attack my spears with anything other then an archer), so a non-agression deal is worthless. If, however, you would be willing to, let's say, 1000 gold + 40-turn non-aggression, we'd be talking, and I'll gladly retreat my spears. But I don't think you would be willing to do that, because 1000 gold makes me a risk to your own security, certainly once you move closer to me. I don't commit to 40 turns non-aggression... 1000 gold equals 25 swords... get the picture?
You wouldn't be able to get a deal on techs, by the way, as for the moment I've got all - or am about to get all - military techs I need to deal with Nathan and possible bold invasions from the North. I couldn't care less that I'm behind in comparison to you
DeepO
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