Turn 1

[notyoueither]

FP. There was a thread where it was discussed, and agreed to by many, that each team could have up to a day with the save for turn 1.

It will be that way for the most part, aside from times when we arrange for an accelerated session. The accelerated session kind of just happened today. We were pushed along by the impetus of many eager people. Thankfully, a few of you were around today to lend a hand. I think we are off to a great start.

[FrustratedPoet]

fair enough then, I assumed from the existence of that chat that we'd changed plans.

anyway, they're done now.

[Randolph]

Good Moves

I like the start

[notyoueither]

btw, we may get to turn 2 tonight. The sav is with Lego. They are last. From them it goes back to us.

I feel I have a very good idea of the consensus for turn 2. Plop settler and begin clearing forest with furs.

I would set research to Wheel and max the slider.

Any problems with this?

[Theseus]

Not to delay things, but I'd really like to make sure clearing the forest is our best move.

Definitely build the capitol.

[notyoueither]

Here Theseus.

3950. Turn 0. Build capitol. Pop 2 in 10. Worker clears forest (5). Research to The Wheel (27). Que warrior (10). Pop on grass w river.
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3700. Turn 5. Forest cleared. Worker set to irrigation. Warrior complete. Que warrior (10).
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3600. Turn 7. Irrigation complete (tile is 2/2/2). Worker to grass w river. Switch pop to plains w river and furs. Pop in 3. Que Warior (3).
3550. Turn 8. Worker builds mine (3).
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3450. Turn 10. Pop to 2. Pop 3 in 10. Pop on grass w river. Warrior complete. Que Warrior (4).
3400. Turn 11. Mine complete. Worker builds road. Warrior in 2.
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3300. Turn 13. Road complete. Worker back to plains w river and fur. The Wheel in 7. Warrior complete. Que settler (8). Third warrior garrisons.
3250. Turn 14. Worker builds road.
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3150. Turn 16. Road complete. Worker moves off to other projects. The Wheel in 4.
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3000. Turn 19. The Wheel discovered. Bronze in 12.
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2900. Turn 21. Pop to 3. Settler built. Pop 2 in 10 Que warrior (4). Bronze in 15.

Phewwww. I am done with that stuff for tonight.

[notyoueither]

Just received Turn 2 (that would be 0 by the chart).

Plopping settler.

[Theseus]

nye, I can't even go there (great effort, though).

Let's stick with the short-term...

1) Citizen: (I think) You propose on the grassland / river tile. So, we've only got 1 shield coming in...

2) Worker: Clearing the forest / furs. Finished in 2700BC... what's the shield payoff, and for what?

3) Research: At what % are you getting a 27 turn completion?

Sorry for being obtuse, but this is what will make us or break us.

[DeepO]

Sorry about the confusion Re: the first move: I somehow mixed West and East... it looks great where youa re now.

As to spying: I wouldn't spy on private communications, however we should make it very difficult for people to spy on us. So some remarks on alva's site:
- So far, we can't be googled, the site has no incoming link and as long as no-one submits the precise link to google, it won't be found.
- In the future, it is not very safe, as it uses default pages. When you enter the url for the directory, the Gathering Storm pages start (index.html ?). If we want protection against google, we should make an extra layer here: have an index.html, with no GS information (or fake one, if our webmeister kan be bothered), and have a separate page with all secret information, which is not linked from any page on the net. This second page will stay isolated, meaning that it can contain all info you want, it will never be found by google.
- other security features: chats should be either led by irc-knowable people, or rather on PMs here.

DeepO

[Shiber]

I still think some password protection is due. If it's possible, put an HTTP authentication based password (with .htpasswd), or at least zip the pictures with Winzip 8.0 or above and put a very long password on it.
Regarding IRC, I'm very experienced with IRC. If noone objects I'll go and set up a channel for us on Apolyton's IRC channel. I can lock it with a password (which we will change periodically), work some spellz to protect the channel and set it so it automatically gives op status to team members that enter the room (so they can kick out spies if such still manage to enter the room).

[DeepO]

Shiber, looks good for me. However, I heard some people complaining about irc-chats... maybe this is a worth a separate thread to discuss.

DeepO

[alva]

I still think some password protection is due. If it's possible, put an HTTP authentication based password (with .htpasswd),

Could you give more info, on how to do this.
me is no l33t Whizzzzkid

[Shiber]

Umm... kinda complicated really. You'll also need to learn how to encrypt the password with UNIX hashes. And besides, I strongly doubt that your webspace provider even allows users to use .htpasswd locks so it's not really worth the bother.
I could point you to a good book or two though if you're interested in learning.

Let's just use password-protected zip files for now. I know the password can be broken with brute-force (using a program that systematically attempts to guess the password and can guess thousands of passwords per second in zip's case), but if we choose a long password (15 characters or more) with numbers and symbols it would take anyone trying to break the password with a PC several lifetimes to crack it.