Adam Smith's College

[notyoueither]

Master Barclay should lead discussions of an economic nature here. The first post after this one should be for current plans and objectives. The players will look there for guidance, as well as in the turn threads.

If Master Barclay cannot participate in the turn threads, the first posts of this thread being up to date will be all that there is to guide the player(s).

[Theseus]

Anybody up for researching Astronomy? Caravels would be awfully nice about now... and we will want something to trade with Lego.

[Theseus]

Also, someone needs to take a close look at our current builds and workforce disposition, and we should consider when we want to cut iron again.

[Theseus]

BUILDERS OF THE WORLD... UNITE!!

We need to seriously think about our build plans, especially on Stormia as regarding the Palace, the FP, and our ongoing guns vs. butter issues.

Further, assuming we are successful in hiring GoW and dismantling ND... we will have another half continent to develop!! Issues = CP, # of Workers, road network, corruption, Palace Jump... presumably concurrently with taking apart ND.

[Cort Haus]

I'd consider building an FP in New Madrid. I think it has 4/12 production - rushing a marketplace and courthouse might get that to 8spt = FP in 25 turns, I think.

Arrian has presented a case against a PJ to Bob. We can't rely on a leader so the above looks the best bet to me.

Workers - we should perhaps look at setting up a worker pump or two, and see where to expect 'natural' worker builds in size 6 cities.

Corruption - can't help much here. If only someone could offer to read some alexman threads...

CP - What's this?

[Theseus]

A new FP? So, close down Arashi?

CP = City Placement

[Cort Haus]

Well, it's the fastest sure-way to get production on Bob, and Arashi would have to go. I never disbanded a Palace or FP city before - I'm assuming you get to be able to build another one. Confirmation, anyone?

We can't rely on GL or PJ, and a manual Palace would take forever, so if we're serious about production on Bob the only alternative is partial production with mkt/wltkd/ch improvements.
We just have to count the shields on the Palace prebuild to know when to disband Arashi.

[Theseus]

That's what I thought you meant... just making sure.

[Harovan]

Originally posted by Cort Haus
I'm assuming you get to be able to build another one. Confirmation, anyone?

Yes.

[Harovan]

About city placement on Bob: It has quite some hills and mountains and thus, good productive potential. 2 or 3 of the cities there, in well protected places, should have the potential to grow above size 12. The others could be built more dense, to get the most out of the tiles until we have hospitals.

[Theseus]

And perhaps we will do some...

Ralphing!

[Cort Haus]

If we're looking to hold Spain - the FP in New Madrid could still apply. We could switch from it from pike to mkt/ch.

This all assumes that we are going to have our section of Spain ourselves, rather than RP. If Pamp falls, and we control their cities, their Palace goes to Stormia - which means they can start getting production from the region.

If Pamp were never to fall, it may be better for RP to control their cities, as they can build units there. If it does fall - perhaps better to PJ straight to Stormia and get on with the new role, than to New Madrid.

Basically our economic plans for the FP depend on our expectations from the war - which in turn depends on our new policy now the GoW deal is off.

[Cort Haus]

City Placement

Fort Liberation could be founded in two turns (if Barca-66 is safe - can be checked from FL tile), and a city on the spice-ruins tile in three turns - if these can be defended. A city on the hill-ruins at Toledo 6999 can be reached by the settler on the galley in two turns.

[Cort Haus]

Builds 370AD

These are the current builds.

(Assumes no Iron-cutting, and no panic-building for a coastguard. A quick coastguard build plan might be handy too)

Outlook : Keep knights, pikes and galleys coming, but develop key cities economically. Assign commerce cities - those with growth infrastructure in place, and get libs/mkt/unis and grow them up - partly by adding workers/settlers

Summary:

Military :
5 galleys, 2 east, 3 west
3 defenders
3 knights - possible 3 other cities on growth builds could switch to knights

Civil:
2 University
3 growth
2 anti-corruption
2 settler/worker


Eliopolis : doesn't look like there's going to be an FP here, so switch to lib to secure borders against RP and to access Eli-63, and adjust for +2F for growth towards 6. Or mkt - and ask RP not to build temple in HH
plan: WLTK

Inchon : Completes Spear in 370AD, uses hill vacated by Eliopolis for 3spt - start pike
plan : military defenders

Wind of Change : Galley in 3 turns. Can MM Inchoff's iron for one turn to reduce this to 2.
plan : galleys - east

Inchoff : Continue Courthouse (in 8t), then military - not a growth city yet.
plan : military - knights?

Dissidentville : pike
plan - defenders - might want temple in a while to get more land

Santa Ana : pike, move wf from SA-6 to SA-87
plan - defenders

Blizzard : galley, wf from Blizz-2 to Blizz-8
plan : galleys - east

Monsoon : Completes galley in 370AD
plan : galleys - west

Arashi : knights
plan : disband for FP move (New Madrid?)

Whilrlwind : galley
plan : galleys - west , but needs harbour soon to grow

Sandstorm : knight
plan : knights

Tempest : University

OG : galley
plan : galleys - west

EoTs : knight - we're not doing a palace jump now
plan: university?

Hurricane : University
plan: Copernicus?

Bolderburg : Has harbour & aqueduct - currently building granary but could switch to a mkt and use settler for size 9 - this would take a potential city site from Spain though. Another settler is coming from typhoon. could be knight
plan : commerce city

Cyclone : worker
plan : worker pump to fatten up commerce cities.

Tornado : harbor
plan : commerce city

Typhoon : settler, could be knight
plan : military? - limited growth potential, but has ch. maybe lib - or switch to Knights

Sufa : aqueduct, could be knight (chop coming)
plan - has harbour - commerce city

[Theseus]

These are good plans... let me cross-check them when the save arrives.