Give'em Hell, Boys... It Will Be Our Finest Hour

[Theseus]

I don;t know if that's the best title, but it's sorta Churchill and it's *emotionally* in line with where I want to go...

Fine, Beta wants to play his puppy games.

Fine, Togas likes to pour gasoline on fires.

Fine, the other teams are rightly threatened.

Uh, er... whatEVER!!!!

I wanna have some fun here, and maybe beat Beta, and whoever, at this new game called Civ3 PTW MP Diplomacy.

Some quick thoughts:

ROLEPLAY: Let's not try to herd the cats... let's have one official voice, and make clear that anything else is individual statement (with the usual disclaimers)... and then let the psychos out of the hospital!!!

Me - The psycho warmonger formerly know as Theseus. I'll disclaimer it, but I'm dying to go crazy.... Thulsa Doom, rivers of blood, Stalin / Lenin, Hussein, etc.

Sir Ralph - Nobody else could *possibly* play the role of righteousness and moral indignation. Think Prussian.

Arrian - Cold logic. Spock as a general. Or maybe Rumsfeld.

We need a Churchill!!

RHETORIC: Enough of this flowery diplo crap. We need the rhetoric of warfare. Let's liberally copy the great wartime speechmakers of history, especially the ones that just COMPLETELY go over the top... Caesar, Shakespeare, Lenin, Churchill, Castro and Guevara, HappySunshine.

(ROTFLMAO )

DIPLO AND DISCLAIMERS: All over the place, and perhaps special PMs to each team head (including Vox), letting them know that we are doing this. "Out" this whole ploy of Beta's, and thus start to defuse it. Maybe also, only the FAM does formal responses in other teams' threads, and the GS psycho's start our own trash talking threads (starting with Beta and Vox) . Follow much of the sympathizer's advice about checking in with the other teams more before major diplo things happen, not after. Let Ming know what we are doing, and make sure that whatever we do we keep it clean and in the context of game roleplay, not personal.

Our sympathizer is right... let's take our time, and diplomatically break things... slowly... carefully.


Those are just some quick notes... I gotta run, back in a few hours.

[Shiber]

BREAK THE SYSTEM!
TEAR IT DOWN!!

Yes, I like it! It's unexpected, it'll drive them crazy, and best of all, it'll be FUN!!

[Shiber]

If we can't cope with the current system, we can just break it. A new system may arise, one that we will adjust to better than the other teams, perhaps even dominate.
And I want us to hold LOADS of chats!

[Arrian]

Chats are a good idea, methinks.

We can't undo the damage Beta has done to us in the past.

But we CAN learn from what he did to us.

-Arrian

[Theseus]

OK, here's a first go... I figure start formally, and then I'll slowly begin to foam at the mouth. When we get going, I could see us even (fake)debating in public, about this being unauthorized, fracturing the team, yadayadayada.

But again, I don;t want to start posting until we have a multi-pronged and thought-out plan.
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TO THE PTW DG TEAMS

As co-General of the Armies of Gathering Storm and Master of the Spartan Academy, I hereby announce the formation of the StormHawk Party.

Our founding principles are:

Duty
Honor
Country

Put simply, it is our duty to restore Gathering Storm's besmirched honor, and bring peace to ALL of Stormland.

We will not stand for dissembly, in public or in private. The dastardly Vox have used their political and diplomatic wiles once too often, and in the process have insulted the honor of all the civilizations in our world.

We will not stand for it.

In the history of nations, others have attempted to sway men's minds with promises, to play upon their fears, to offer seemingly cunning ways of gaining advantage.

Often, these rogues are brought out onto a public stage, for the world to unite in their censure and restraint. The StormHawk Party had hoped that the nations here would do so, and in fact further punish the offenders with a banishment to poor lands.

The diplomatic corps of Gathering Storm essayed a peaceful solution, reached out a helping hand to these Voxian fiends, just to be done with them as an immediate concern, and to let our economists re-direct this oh so Golden Age into more productive avenues. And what became of that helping hand? Slapped down and spit upon by virtue of Voxian intrigues and dissembly.

Neither of these solutions has happened, and now, given the repeated insults to Stormian honor, nor will they.

Again, we will not stand for it.

Let the words pour venomously from Voxian mouths, but also let all of the civilized nations of the world shake hands and embrace as brothers.

For the StormHawk Party is, as of now, and forevermore, committed to a regime change and the freeing of the peoples of Northern Stormland... and then Vox will be no more.

[ManicStarSeed]

As MoDA, is it my job as a leader of the StormDove party to be as conciliatory as possible? Peace at all costs, compensate Vox for unjust their treatment?

Or should I isolate myself from these “antics “ All the while I will coordinate the real diplomatic front with a team of 5 ambassadors and an assistant FAM?

Mss

[Theseus]

IF we do this right, and have fun with it, we can drive everybody CRAZY!!!

Your call, MSS, if you want to focus on the real diplo stuff... 1) yeah, it's a lot of time, and 2) you could certainly have a StormDove proxy or two.

[Theseus]

Man, I hope the team wants to do what I'm suggesting, and let's me loose. Beta's avatar... a friggin' baboon... so much potential.

[Arrian]

Well, that's a PTW Demogame II thing, but use it if you think you can get mileage out of it.

-Arrian

[Arrian]

Upon posting that last thought, this is what I got from the Apolyton quote machine:

I have discovered the art of deceiving diplomats. I tell them the truth
and they never believe me.
-- Camillo Di Cavour

-Arrian

[OPD]

GoW's talk of being mercenaries is interesting.....

What are the chances that we could pay them to publically criticise Vox and the way that vox has behaved. Then perhaps something about us being honourable and how we have every right to kick vox of Estonia.

[Harovan]

That wouldn't be a mercenary, that would be a whore. No mercenary can sink so low. Oh well, maybe GoW can.

[alva]

If GOW was 'honest'(big if) in the chat, their remarks aren't going to make alot of a difference anymore anyway.
They look to become the next one to be picked on, so...

[Shiber]

That would be asking someone else to lie for us, which is against our code of honor I believe.

[alva]

That would be asking someone else to lie for us, which is against our code of honor I believe.

I would consider it borderline though, if not, we wouldn't ever be able to hire GOW if we wanted to (or neede to). Hmm, not sure on this one.